What is the purpose of the Devil. Why didnt God just kill him off 5000+ years ago when he rebelled. (reincarnation, exodus)

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by BamaBlue

Oh now, do you believe in Santa and the tooth fairy too?

Really isn't the Devil just another way to explain really, really bad behavior (i.e. poor choice). Because after all, God gives us free will. So The Devil is in all of us, right?

We got it. You don't believe in Satan. Thanks.

[zthatzmanz28]

The reason why satan was not destroyed or put down years ago--(maybe he was and man just resurrected him?) is like watching a cheap horror film where FREDDY never dies, what would you do if FREDDY dies in the movie? YOU WOULD LEAVE. In real life if you knew (or accepted he died) you would go about your live and never worry about the boogie man again..

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Julian658

The existence of The Devil is a theological nightmare for those that are thinkers and believers in God. Augustine did a fair job with this issue.

The idea that there is a being out there that makes people do evil things is extremely weird, but it was a very useful preaching tool to gain converts. And to this day it still works.

The existence of the Devil also diminishes God because God is supposed to be infinite GOODNESS. Then why allow a DEVIL to cause havoc on humans?


The solution is simple:


Just assume the Devil is the symbol of EVIL within man: CASE CLOSED.

Assume allegory every single time Satan or the Devil is mentioned in the Bible.

Would that be Satan in English or Hebrew?...

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Mike555

No, the case is not closed simply because you refuse to believe what the Bible says about him. Satan is shown to be a real being who when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness took Jesus into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple (Matthew 4:5). And no, that does not read as an allegory.

You mean the case is not closed just because he refuses to believe what you say about him...Be honest, Mike....

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Julian658

I think it is allegorical. Satan cannot compete with God.

Correct...If he could that would be polytheism...

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Delahanty

Lol, just consider the source(s). The non-believers wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they weren't ALLOWED to wreak havoc on a "Christianity' thread. Ignore them.

You need some education in things...

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Mike555

Knowing and understanding are two different things. You have shown that you understand nothing and that you reject what you do not understand. But what you reject, others, including learned theologians who know the original languages and history and culture of the time in which the Bible was written, accept as truth. You have rejected the truth and bought into the lies of this present world system. You have made your choice.

I would say it is you who understand nothing...I think you will be in for a rude awakening, son....

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

The reason why satan was not destroyed or put down years ago--(maybe he was and man just resurrected him?) is like watching a cheap horror film where FREDDY never dies, what would you do if FREDDY dies in the movie? YOU WOULD LEAVE. In real life if you knew (or accepted he died) you would go about your live and never worry about the boogie man again..

Not exactly... Satan should not be the focus of believers.

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

Not exactly... Satan should not be the focus of believers.

IT is a very good version, you have to admit...any "thing" that becomes a focus is just a distraction.

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by SAAN

A google search will show from Adam to Jesus was 4000 years and it been about 2000 yrs since Jesus.

Bible Timeline
Biblical Chronology - From Adam to Jesus Christ.
Genealogy from Adam to Jesus / The 7,000 Year Plan of God
http://www.biblestudy.net/Helps/Condensed_Timeline.pdf

===> From Adam to Yeshua/Jesus was a total of 4,000 years. Below is the Biblical chronology of this:

************************************************** ***************
* Adam to Seth ............. 130 yrs (Genesis 5:3) *
* Seth to Enos ............. 105 yrs (Genesis 5:6) *
* Enos to Cainan ............ 90 yrs (Genesis 5:9) *
* Cainan to Mahalaleel ...... 70 yrs (Genesis 5:12) *
* Mahalaleel to Jared ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:15) *
* Jared to Enoch ............ 162 yrs (Genesis 5:18) *
* Enoch to Methuselah ....... 65 yrs (Genesis 5:21) *
* Methuselah to Lamech ...... 187 yrs (Genesis 5:25) *
* Lamech to Noah ............ 182 yrs (Genesis 5:28-29) *
* Noah to the Flood ......... 600 yrs (Genesis 7:6) *
* Flood to Arphaxad ......... 2 yrs (Genesis 11:10) *
* Arphaxad to Salah ......... 35 yrs (Genesis 11:12) *
* Salah to Eber ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:14) *
* Eber to Peleg ............. 34 yrs (Genesis 11:16) *
* Peleg to Reu ............. 30 yrs (Genesis 11:18) *
* Reu to Serug ............. 32 yrs (Genesis 11:20) *
* Serug to Nahor ............ 30 yrs (Genesis 11:22) *
* Nahor to Terah ............ 29 yrs (Genesis 11:24) *
* Terah to Abraham .......... 70 yrs (Genesis 11:26) *
* ------- *
* Adam to Abraham .......... 1948 yrs (This same geneology *
* is in Luke 3:34-38) *
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* Abraham to Isaac .......... 100 yrs (Genesis 21:5) *
* Isaac to Jacob ............ 60 yrs (Genesis 25:26) *
* Jacob to Egypt ............ 130 yrs (Genesis 47:28) *
* --------- *
* Abraham to Egypt 290 yrs *
************************************************** *********


************************************************** ***************
* From Egypt to Exodus ........ X yrs *
* *
* ---- Jacob and his family went to Egypt *
* *
* Jacob went to Egypt (Genesis 46:8,11) *
* Levi went to Egypt (Jacob's son) (Genesis 46:8,11) *
* Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son) (Genesis 46:8,11) *
* *
* Kohath had a son named Amram (Exodus 6:18) *
* Amram had a son named Moses (Exodus 6:20) *
* *
* ---- Moses to the Exodus ..... 80 yrs (Exodus 7:7, *
* Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)*
* *
* From Egypt to Exodus: X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses + 80) *
************************************************** ***************

************************************************** ***************
* In Wilderness ................ 40 yrs (Numbers 32:13, *
* Deuteronomy 2:7, 29:5 *
* Wilderness to death Joshua ... 30 yrs (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)*
* -------- *
* Exodus to death Joshua 70 yrs *
************************************************** ***************


************************************************** ***************
* PERIOD OF THE JUDGES *
* *
* Under King Cushanrishathaim .. 8 yrs (Judges 3:8) *
* Under Othniel ................ 40 yrs (Judges 3:10-11) *
* Under King Eglon ............. 18 yrs (Judges 3:14) *
* Under Ehud ................... 80 yrs (Judges 3:15,30) *
* Under King Jabid ............. 20 yrs (Judges 4:1-3) *
* Under Deborah ................ 40 yrs (Judges 4:4, 5:31) *
* Under Midianites ............. 7 yrs (Judges 6:1) *
* Under Gideon ................. 40 yrs (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28) *
* Under Abimelech .............. 3 yrs (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)*
* Under Tola ................... 23 yrs (Judges 10:1-2) *
* Under Jair ................... 22 yrs (Judges 10:3) *
* Under Ammonites .............. 18 yrs (Judges 10:5-8) *
* Under Jephthah ............... 6 yrs (Judges 12:7) *
* Under Ibzan .................. 7 yrs (Judges 12:8-9) *
* Under Elon ................... 10 yrs (Judges 12:11) *
* Under Abdon .................. 8 yrs (Judges 12:13-14) *
* Under Philistines ............ 40 yrs (Judges 13:1) *
* Under Samson ................. 20 yrs (Judges 13:24, 15:20, *
* 16:30-31) *
* Under Eli/Samuel ............. 40 yrs (I Samuel 4:15,18, *
* 7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, *
* 9:1-2) *
* --------- *
* Judges to Samuel 450 yrs (Acts 13:20) *
* *
************************************************** ***************



************************************************** ***************
* THE KINGS OF JUDAH *
* *
* Under King Saul .............. 40 yrs (Acts 13:21) *
* Under King David ............. 40 yrs (I Chron 29:26-27) *
* Under King Solomon ........... 40 yrs (I Kings 11:42-43) *
* Under King Rehoboam .......... 17 yrs (I Kings 14:21) *
* Under King Abijam ............ 3 yrs (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)*
* Under King Asa ............... 41 yrs (I Kings 15:8-10) *
* Under King Jehoshaphat ....... 25 yrs (I Kings 22:41-42,50) *
* Under King Jehoram ........... 8 yrs (II Chron 21:5) *
* Under King Ahaziah ........... 1 yr (II Chron. 22:1-2) *
* Under Queen Athaliah ......... 6 yrs (II Chron. 22:10-12) *
* Under King Joash ............. 40 yrs (II Chron. 23:13,15, *
* 24:1) *
* Under King Amaziah ........... 29 yrs (II Chron. 25:1) *
* Under Uzziah ................. 52 yrs (II Chron. 26:3) *
* Under Jotham ................. 16 yrs (II Chron. 27:1) *
* Under Ahaz ................... 16 yrs (II Chron. 28:1) *
* Under Hezekiah ............... 29 yrs (II Chron. 29:1) *
* Under Manasseh ............... 55 yrs (II Chron. 33:1) *
* Under Amon ................... 2 yrs (II Chron. 33:20-21) *
* Under King Josiah ............ 31 yrs (II Chron. 34:1) *
* Under King Jehoahaz .......... 3 mon (II Chron. 36:1-2) *
* Under King Jehoiakim ......... 11 yrs (II Chron. 36:3-7) *
* Under King Jehoiachin ........ 3 mon (II Chron. 36:9) *
* Under King Zedekiah .......... 11 yrs (II Chron. 36:11-21) *
* --------- *
* KINGS OF JUDAH 513 yrs *
* *
************************************************** ***************

************************************************** ***************
* *
* SUMMARY OF THE TIME FROM ADAM TO JESUS *
* *
* Adam to Abraham .................. 1948 yrs *
* Abraham to Egypt ................. 290 yrs *
* *
* From Egypt to Moses: (X) Let X = 63 63 yrs *
* *
* X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses) *
* *
* Moses to the Exodus .............. 80 yrs *
* Exodus to death Joshua ........... 70 yrs *
* Judges to Samuel ................. 450 yrs (Acts 13:20) *
* Kings of Judah ................... 513 yrs *
* Babylonian Captivity ............. 586 B.C.E. *
* --------------- *
* Adam to Jesus 4000 yrs *
* *
************************************************** ***************

You're going to make Mike jealous...