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Evolution describes change . . . which is THE characteristic of Life. It seems supremely silly to pretend that the Creation of Life did not involve the creation of Evolution. Those who see Evolution as an alternative to the Creation of life are just not thinking very clearly. What drives the opposition are religious beliefs and the unwillingness to change them. Most of the time here is wasted in propping up religious beliefs, defending them, and convincing others to believe in them so that they might become permanent.
Religious beliefs serve as need-satisfiers for a variety of otherwise hard to satisfy emotional needs. Perhaps that is why, unlike other belief systems, religious beliefs have resisted change, despite the overwhelming evidence that every other area of human concern has clearly benefited from a natural evolution of knowledge. When we use the evolution in life to our advantage by accepting, incorporating, and supporting change when and where it wants to occur . . . our understanding becomes astute because it is based on a dynamic evolving reality . . . NOT on fixed or wishful thinking.
Most of Christ's self-appointed leaders today foolishly place the emphasis on retaining and promoting ancient beliefs . . . rejecting ANY kind of evolution . . . NOT just the theory. What is worse, they often focus on minuscule differences of opinion and escalate them into major concerns. It is ironic that so many of these self-appointed religious leaders in the Christian fold so closely resemble the Scribes and Pharisees described by Jesus in Matthew 15:9, "in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine the precepts of men."
It is a vain and foolish person who says "live as I say for the reasons I give you and no others." That only serves human vanity and ego. Our God could never be less reasonable than the most reasonable human being! If certain beliefs are causing people to err because they can no longer accept them, revise them or cast them out, as Jesus suggested in Luke 14:34
. . . Salt is good; but if even the salt loses its strength, what shall it be seasoned with? It is fit neither for the land nor for the manure heap, but must be thrown out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
Jesus set the precedent for revision of old beliefs with his own revision of the Old Testament which he justified in Luke 5:36,
. . . And no-one pours new wine into old wine skins; else the new wine will burst the skins, and will be spilt itself, and the skins ruined. But the new wine must be put into fresh skins and both are saved.
The old beliefs served their purpose. They held the earlier generations' belief in God, mellowed our barbaric nature, and humankind has reaped the benefits. But new knowledge has weakened their power to persuade and made them inadequate to hold the new generations' belief in God. Newer more evolved beliefs consistent with our rapidly expanding knowledge of the world are needed. This means revision . . . NOT abandonment!! Ironically, revision has been one of the hallmarks of the splitting of Christianity into sects (Protestantism) . . . but even that spark of wisdom seems to have faded with the emergence of fundamentalism.
Revision is a good thing in the "evolutionary scheme of things." The pervasiveness of contradictions and inconsistencies in Christian scriptures is one of the sure signs that truth resides in the Christian Bible. Christian doctrine has always been riddled with inconsistencies, and rightly so. Paul clearly explained this feature of his teachings, apparently unnoticed by today's leaders, in I Corinthians 3:1
. . . And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but only as carnal, as to little ones in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Nor are you now ready for it, for you are still carnal.
Paul tells us, Jesus tells us, virtually every other source of doctrine similarly reveals that what has been said and recorded was geared to the knowledge, understanding, and sophistication of the original audience. Since it was necessary to "feed milk instead of solid food" to the early audience, this necessity must become clear eventually and be recognized. Otherwise, we would forever "drink milk and ignore solid food."
The original authors believed in the validity of their message unto the end of time . . . even though it was designed for a spiritually and cognitively primitive audience. Therefore, it must contain adequate clues for evolving those early simplifications into more solid food. This is inescapable if the Spirit (not the letter) of the message is to remain valid for more enlightened future audiences. As the inevitable advances in human understanding occur . . . they cause these clues to emerge as contradictions or inconsistencies. Identifying the Spirit underlying the Good News (Gospel) provides the appropriate explanations. The system is remarkably sound because the doctrine only requires revision when the audience has evolved the necessary understanding to demand it. Evolution at work yet again.
I won't comment on any one particular thought as I don't want to offend anyone.
Life - how did it start? This planet we live in and all its inhabitants including the insects, fish, bird, our pets, sea life, how did they come to be here? In school I learnt that Darwin came up with this idea that we came from the sea weed, some one else say we originate from monkeys, still others feel we came about by chance. Is that possible? In the view of many who accept the theory of evolution, life will always be made up of intense competition, with strife, hatred, wars and death. Some even feel that man may destroy himself in the near future. Do you agree?
" In the view of many who accept the theory of evolution, life will always be made up of intense competition, with strife, hatred, wars and death. Some even feel that man may destroy himself in the near future. Do you agree?"
What does that have to do with creation or evolution?. Aren't those statements demonstrable true for creationists as well as evolutionsists?
that's right. They seem to show smaller died off first. Then medium died off. then larger died off. Then really big died off. Then back to medium. Now we see even us mediums get bigger. And we can get things like beeks to get longer or shorter in the lab.
so what are the possibilities for that sequence in terms of "gods" creation of man from dirt? The bible does not say a thing on how god did it. NOT A THING. We do have your observation. So what can that mean in terms of how god took dust and made man?
God SPOKE creation into existence by His divine fiat. He is GOD. Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but MY WORD shall not pass away.
We are creatures living in a reality the observable natural measurable
processes of which cannot be extrapolated to the dawn of creation.
Here, you speak of creatures. Tell me how it is that ancient men
made drawings and figurines of dinosaurs which accurately present
them, hundreds of years before the hypothesis of "evolution" was
ever conceptualized ? Could it be that "dinosaurs" lived along side
men, as the Bible says ? Of course, logic would dictate this conclusion.
Evolutionism is a dying concept which cannot stand much longer in
the intellectual sphere, despite all the money and agenda continuing
to promote its lies. Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park
If we go by what God said, He formed man on the 6th day, not from millions of years of evolution. Evolution is just a way to disenfranchise God from any part in His incredible creation of humanity. Oh, some can say God had animals evolve into humans but that is not what God said. It comes down to Who does one believe? God or fallible man?
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
And fossis are only the claim, not proof. It is only evidence suggesting that a species of life once existed and became extinct. That's it.
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Originally Posted by expatCA
Correct there is absolutely no PROOF of Evolution. It is all based on wishful thinking and a claim that science supports it (Darwinian Evolution or macro Evolution), when it doesn't. It is becoming more and more obvious every day as Genetics and it's advances show Evolution is not possible. Micro within a "Kind" yes, Macro, nope.
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Originally Posted by Snowball7
God SPOKE creation into existence by His divine fiat. He is GOD. Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but MY WORD shall not pass away.
We are creatures living in a reality the observable natural measurable
processes of which cannot be extrapolated to the dawn of creation.
Here, you speak of creatures. Tell me how it is that ancient men
made drawings and figurines of dinosaurs which accurately present
them, hundreds of years before the hypothesis of "evolution" was
ever conceptualized ? Could it be that "dinosaurs" lived along side
men, as the Bible says ? Of course, logic would dictate this conclusion.
Evolutionism is a dying concept which cannot stand much longer in
the intellectual sphere, despite all the money and agenda continuing
to promote its lies. Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
I only have to look at history to know that man gets it wrong more often than he gets it right. You haven't proven anything.
A really good picture of those who believe in Evolution (Darwinian, etc) and not the Bible. NO science actually proves any of the theory at all. Speculation only which is also known as wishful thinking.
genetics and abio-genetics are blowing the whole phony theory to little bits and pieces , better known as figments of man's imagination.
Waiting for one bit pf proof of Evolution to be submitted and ................... still waiting.
A really good picture of those who believe in Evolution (Darwinian, etc) and not the Bible. NO science actually proves any of the theory at all. Speculation only which is also known as wishful thinking.
genetics and abio-genetics are blowing the whole phony theory to little bits and pieces , better known as figments of man's imagination.
Waiting for one bit pf proof of Evolution to be submitted and ................... still waiting.
This is so preposterous that the ONLY appropriate response is:
God SPOKE creation into existence by His divine fiat. He is GOD. Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but MY WORD shall not pass away.
We are creatures living in a reality the observable natural measurable
processes of which cannot be extrapolated to the dawn of creation.
Here, you speak of creatures. Tell me how it is that ancient men
made drawings and figurines of dinosaurs which accurately present
them, hundreds of years before the hypothesis of "evolution" was
ever conceptualized ? Could it be that "dinosaurs" lived along side
men, as the Bible says ? Of course, logic would dictate this conclusion.
Evolutionism is a dying concept which cannot stand much longer in
the intellectual sphere, despite all the money and agenda continuing
to promote its lies. Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park
the bible don't say that. and the rock record is in god's own hand writing so you are a snow ball. but if you understand DNA as a program then yes they did and they still do live "next too" each other. It is one big code with many subroutines running. It is stupid simple to see. Just open your no-god dern eyes.
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