If I have gay feelings, I must fight them? (experience, pastor, science)

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

Of course not, you were born to condemn others for those things you do yourself.

It is sad that when you fail to address a point you always start kicking dirt, and trying to get personal. Sad.

Unfortunately your "team" is following suit.

On the bright side, your reaction proves one thing: I was right. You get personal in order to deflect attention away from your weak position.

Yes, I admit I was born a sinner like everyone else. Why it offends you, is beyond me.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

It is sad that when you fail to address a point you always start kicking dirt, and trying to get personal. Sad.

Unfortunately your "team" is following suit.

On the bright side, your reaction proves one thing: I was right. You get personal in order to deflect attention away from your weak position.

Yes, I admit I was born a sinner like everyone else. Why it offends you, is beyond me.

Not everyone born, misses the mark; it's a choice you make.

BTW - what exactly is my position?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by TroutDude

Yes, it is. But you have company. So do those others in your fundavangelist sub-sect.

Please explain it then. How does two consenting adults having sex in their bed rooms hurt anyone?

After all, the pro-gay argument is that is DOES NOT hurt anyone.

The others already failed to explain it and begun throwing mud to conceal the fact, but this is your opportunity to clarify it once and for all.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Please explain it then. How does two consenting adults having sex in their bed rooms hurt anyone?

After all, the pro-gay argument is that is DOES NOT hurt anyone.

The others already failed to explain it and begun throwing mud to conceal the fact, but this is your opportunity to clarify it once and for all.

Stay out of their living room (and bedrooms) and you won't be offended.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

Stay out of their living room (and bedrooms) and you won't be offended.

Did I say I was offended? No. You did it again. You deflect by trying to make it about me.

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by Eusebius

What he should ask is: "If I have gay feelings, what are the risks involved if I don't fight them."

So you want all gays to listen up: you knew a gay man who died during an epidemic and you spent a night on the town with your gay buddies watching a few drag queens. (Any of the gay men you encountered during this obviously unforgettable evening offer to buy you a drink? You must have looked quite attractive to the guys who go for the jock look. Everyone sing! Y..M..C..A...It's fun to stay at the Y...M...C...A!)

You are thus qualified, in your opinion, to lecture all gay people and tell them they have to deny who and what they are.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by TroutDude Yes, it is. But you have company. So do those others in your fundavangelist sub-sect.

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Please explain it then. How does two consenting adults having sex in their bed rooms hurt anyone?

After all, the pro-gay argument is that is DOES NOT hurt anyone.

The others already failed to explain it and begun throwing mud to conceal the fact, but this is your opportunity to clarify it once and for all.

Crickets........

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Did I say I was offended? No. You did it again.
You deflect by trying to make it about me.

Do you not profess harm in the offense, as you see it?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

Do you not profess harm in the offense, as you see it?

Does it hurt other people or not?

[TroutDude]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Who is hurt by two people fornicating in their bedrooms? Who us hurt by adultery if the couple agree to it? It is the same thing, straight or gay. What makes them all wrong, is the immorality of the acts.

Nobody is hurt if the two people are consenting adults.

Unless...one of the people is married or otherwise attached to another. Then they are hurting their significant other.

UNLESS, they are in an open relationship allowing for extramarital bed-hopping.

The acts themselves are not immoral: hetero or gay, regular coitus, oral, or anal -- unless those acts hurt, or have the potential to hurt, a third party.

Agree, Finn?