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Old 07-03-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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In other words, the "I was born that way" argument is irrelevant.
Being born a certain way does not make you an adulterer or fornicator, that's a choice you make.
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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In other words, the "I was born that way" argument is irrelevant.
So is the "god said it" argument, if the result is marginalized, outcast individuals who otherwise are decent people. A lot of people say 'god said it' when what they mean is "that's my prejudice and I'm not going to give it up."
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Being born a certain way does not make you an adulterer or fornicator, that's a choice you make.
Exactly. Now you are starting to see the point. You are born with those desires, and it is up to you to choose whether or not you are going to satisfy them. Some people are also born with violent tendencies, but it up to them to control them. Same applies to all, straight or gay.

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Old 07-03-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Exactly. Now you are starting to see the point. You are born with those desires, and it is up to you to choose whether or not you are going to satisfy them.
Good, now we can move on to the next point: what makes adultry and fornication wrong is the people who are hurt by it. What makes a homosexual relationship wrong?
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Being born a certain way does not make you an adulterer or fornicator, that's a choice you make.
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Exactly. Now you are starting to see the point. You are born with those desires, and it is up to you to choose whether or not you are going to satisfy them. Some people are also born with violent tendencies, but it up to them to control them. Same applies to all, straight or gay.
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Good, now we can move on to the next point: what makes adultry and fornication wrong is the people who are hurt by it. What makes a homosexual relationship wrong?
Finn, completely misses the point.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Good, now we can move on to the next point: what makes adultry and fornication wrong is the people who are hurt by it. What makes a homosexual relationship wrong?
Who is hurt by two people fornicating in their bedrooms? Who us hurt by adultery if the couple agree to it? It is the same thing, straight or gay. What makes them all wrong, is the immorality of the acts.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Finn, completely misses the point.
It's not me who is missing it.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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It's not me who is missing it.
Either missing the point or missing the action? Not sure which is pushing the envy attitude. This steel-trap of a mind has to be wearing on the soul. To be constantly counting other peoples' "sins" and ever vigilant to see a sin starting to take shape on the horizon---even when LOVE and MERCY is already present, to see through that and still identify the fallacy of sin, that is magnanimous.

Me, I cannot even count or manage to tabulate the number of sins carried out against me, let alone those committed by total strangers.

So the point that be missing, no one is the keeper of sins, and no one needs to burden themselves with counting their neighbors transgressions.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's not me who is missing it.
Of course not, you were born to condemn others for those things you do yourself.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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It's not me who is missing it.
Yes, it is.

But you have company. So do those others in your fundavangelist sub-sect.
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