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Old 07-27-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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I believe this was said to specific individuals who are no longer living?

And seriously, we all know Jesus did not rite or speak any thing in any of the writings of Paulie, right? The writings of Paulie were all of his own mind and without collaboration...

Just checking to see if we all knew the obvious.
On all points, you are totally wrong. You seem to have a religious mind set but do you know the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The same method of salvation is given to all in all generations since the time of Christ. the Word of God is as applicable today as when Christ spoke it and also had His Disciples write what He said. The written word of God is a reminder of how the Living Word thinks. Miss this point and you miss it all.
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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I didn't say that one needs to understand fully what the cross means but repentance and Faith in Christ does appease God. Only the transformation to His righteousness will make God happy.
Gary, it seems pretty arrogant to me, now, to have ever thought that God's happiness could be dependent on me in any way. More importantly, to think that God needs to be appeased would mean that God is petty and self-seeking. That directly contradicts the description of God/love in the bible.
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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On all points, you are totally wrong. You seem to have a religious mind set but do you know the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The same method of salvation is given to all in all generations since the time of Christ. the Word of God is as applicable today as when Christ spoke it and also had His Disciples write what He said. The written word of God is a reminder of how the Living Word thinks. Miss this point and you miss it all.
Miss the mark and miss it all?

Not quite the whole truth gary..

If you have read the bible, and it appears this is probably a true assumption on my part, then you know we have all missed the mark and fallen short of the glory of God.

Isn't the truth really found in a relationship,or understanding of God's "message" and Jesus sharing of the TWO greatest commandments to LOVE GOD and LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR(S).

In Roman occupied territories, the one sure-fire way to get hung from a cross was to be seen as a threat to those in power.

Jesus knew what he was doing. He knew he would be seen as a threat. He knew where it would lead (the cross). I’d even argue he’d known for a while what he was going to do and where it was likely to lead. Three different times before entering the temple, Jesus predicted that he would be given the death penalty, capital punishment, death by crucifixion.

“No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”

“Why did Jesus die on a cross?”

Jesus died on the cross because he offended those in power.

Jesus died on a cross because he challenged the status quo.

Jesus died on a cross because love would not sit silently by as those who had little were being stepped on, used, and abused by those who had so very much.

“Why did Jesus die on a cross?”

Jesus died on a cross to show us what love looks like in action.
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Old 07-27-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Are you speaking about our Supreme Court, Congress, Obama, or the media? They all see evil as good!
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Old 07-27-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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Gary, it seems pretty arrogant to me, now, to have ever thought that God's happiness could be dependent on me in any way. More importantly, to think that God needs to be appeased would mean that God is petty and self-seeking. That directly contradicts the description of God/love in the bible.
Amen, Pleroo! Why is this not obvious to everyone?? Rep IOU.
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Isn't the truth really found in a relationship,or understanding of God's "message" and Jesus sharing of the TWO greatest commandments to LOVE GOD and LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR(S).
In Roman occupied territories, the one sure-fire way to get hung from a cross was to be seen as a threat to those in power.
Jesus knew what he was doing. He knew he would be seen as a threat. He knew where it would lead (the cross). I’d even argue he’d known for a while what he was going to do and where it was likely to lead. Three different times before entering the temple, Jesus predicted that he would be given the death penalty, capital punishment, death by crucifixion.
“No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”
“Why did Jesus die on a cross?”
Jesus died on the cross because he offended those in power.
Jesus died on a cross because he challenged the status quo.
Jesus died on a cross because love would not sit silently by as those who had little were being stepped on, used, and abused by those who had so very much.
“Why did Jesus die on a cross?”
Jesus died on a cross to show us what love looks like in action.
Well said!
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Old 07-27-2015, 02:50 PM
 
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Do you have scriptures for this Gary ?.
I was asking do you have a scripture that states God needed to be appeased?.
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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I didn't say that one needs to understand fully what the cross means but repentance and Faith in Christ does appease God. Only the transformation to His righteousness will make God happy.
People are saying God cannot be pleased, so why bother trying........

"And whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him"

and yet at the same time

"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: New England
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People are saying God cannot be pleased, so why bother trying........

"And whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him"

and yet at the same time

"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."
Appeased not pleased. I believe it gives God great pleasure when we trust him to be all things to us.
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Old 07-27-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Gary, it seems pretty arrogant to me, now, to have ever thought that God's happiness could be dependent on me in any way. More importantly, to think that God needs to be appeased would mean that God is petty and self-seeking. That directly contradicts the description of God/love in the bible.
You misread what I am saying. It does not depend on you but on God who gives the Grace to repent but what He does not take away is your ability to choose Him when He makes Himself known. It is written,
REV 3:20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me." You must open the door when He calls because as He said, "Many are called but few are chosen."

God needs men and women to trust Him for transformation of their soul so that this world might be a little more like Paradise. His need also is to share His Glory so as to be one with Him. To see His Glory on the soul of another is what pleases Him.

My doctrine is sound but it seems that all so many of you want to do is debate rather than to rejoice in the Truths of God.
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Old 07-28-2015, 04:39 AM
 
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You misread what I am saying. It does not depend on you but on God who gives the Grace to repent but what He does not take away is your ability to choose Him when He makes Himself known. It is written,
REV 3:20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me." You must open the door when He calls because as He said, "Many are called but few are chosen."

God needs men and women to trust Him for transformation of their soul so that this world might be a little more like Paradise. His need also is to share His Glory so as to be one with Him. To see His Glory on the soul of another is what pleases Him.

My doctrine is sound but it seems that all so many of you want to do is debate rather than to rejoice in the Truths of God.
The truth of God is celebrated n the TWO greatest commandments--

Loving God and LOVING our neighbor..

Seeing His glory on the soul of another is what pleases him? where does this voodoo come from?

This is what the Lord wants from His people---


To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
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