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Trust me, God doesn't give a flying fig if one is baptized, or unsplattered, or a JW, or an atheist, or gay or even - gasp - a Catholic, Democrat or Yankees fan.
Only blinkered fundamentalists with their head up their fundament thinking they're smelling roses have problems accepting certain truths and many aspects of reality.
Get real Trout. Gods cares greatly about many things. You should learn what he says in his written word--those who are thankful to God for life, do just that. Its those described at 2Timothy 3 that think as you.( the world) the world Jesus taught to be no part of.
not true at all. there were a number of Catholics (St. Maximillian Kolbe for example) and protestants (like Dietrich Bonheoffer) among others who also suffered and died in the concentration camps for resistance to the Nazis so the Jews and JW's were by no means the only ones to die for their beliefs. according to the Wikipedia article on "holocaust victims" Dachau concentration camp has a special "priest's barracks" in which 2720 clergy were imprisoned the vast majority (94.88%) were Catholic priests. I strongly recommend that you read the entire article that shows all sorts of people of faith were imprisoned starved, tormented, and killed.
Its an impossibility to God for a single group to take both sides--for and against. And I am sure that yes all could see that Mr Hitler was an insane mass murderer and no religion of Gods helped him an iota. Some stopped helping him when it was too late--those with insight that actually knew Jesus, said no from day 1. No follower of Jesus would ever lift a weapon against another true follower of Jesus-- not on the word of any man or govt. Its the work of darkness to participate in something like that.
Get real Trout. Gods cares greatly about many things. You should learn what he says in his written word--those who are thankful to God for life, do just that. Its those described at 2Timothy 3 that think as you.( the world) the world Jesus taught to be no part of.
other German Christians Catholic and Protestant DID in fact "from day 1" resist Hitler and his war and suffered and died for that very fact---JUST LIKE the JW's AND JEWS!!! that war is terrible and when Christians are involved even more sad and horrific (generally not by choice, they were drafted as citizens obedient if unwilling to what they believed were "the powers that be which are ordained by God" and in general NOT officially supported by most of the churches except in the fact that they probably prayed to God for the safety of the soldiers in harms way and a quick and peaceful end to the war (NOT necessarily a victory for Hitler and the Nazis). Hitler came to power with an ultimate plan of "cleansing" Germany internally of all subversive (which included most all Christians of ANY kind that resisted his godless state or "subhuman" elements (Jews, Poles and Russians, "Gypsies" ,the mentally defective, and many others) both internally and in fact the same for much of the rest of Europe at least as well.
sadly most people inside or outside Germany really understood or believed that anyone could really conceive or do that kind of evil and in point of fact his initial stated public goals was simply a strong and united Reich at peace with it's neighbors---all a front of course for his real desires and plans. it's all well and good to say "put up the sword" but in fact if there had been no resistance internally or externally in response to this holocaust he and his supporters would have continued killing and killing millions and millions until they MIGHT have ran out of enemies and victims.
to say that there is much blame to go around including those who just "looked the other way" or simply "followed orders" of what they believed was legitimate authority and yes, those who were even nominally Christian individually and collectively who were involved in killing even in defense of themselves and their families are caught up in a terrible moral dilemma at best (and they like all of us are and will be responsible for our acts to a just---but hopefully merciful---God). however, to somehow try and make the horrors and tragedy of millions caught in a terrible war SPECIFICALLY the fault of Christianity or organized religion doesn't work for me and I think most serious historians or theologians. none of the states involved were officially "Christian" (except NOMINALLY Great Britain which had a "church by law established" and a head of state---the king---whose official title is "defender of the faith") and none seriously invoked religion or God as the MAIN reason they went to war for offense or defense (except MAYBE the Japanese invoking the "spirit of the divine race" and their Emperor "the son of heaven")---many no doubt called upon God for help---but likely more for peace and safety from harm rather than death or destruction for their enemies..
other German Christians Catholic and Protestant DID in fact "from day 1" resist Hitler and his war and suffered and died for that very fact---JUST LIKE the JW's AND JEWS!!! that war is terrible and when Christians are involved even more sad and horrific (generally not by choice, they were drafted as citizens obedient if unwilling to what they believed were "the powers that be which are ordained by God" and in general NOT officially supported by most of the churches except in the fact that they probably prayed to God for the safety of the soldiers in harms way and a quick and peaceful end to the war (NOT necessarily a victory for Hitler and the Nazis). Hitler came to power with an ultimate plan of "cleansing" Germany internally of all subversive (which included most all Christians of ANY kind that resisted his godless state or "subhuman" elements (Jews, Poles and Russians, "Gypsies" ,the mentally defective, and many others) both internally and in fact the same for much of the rest of Europe at least as well.
sadly most people inside or outside Germany really understood or believed that anyone could really conceive or do that kind of evil and in point of fact his initial stated public goals was simply a strong and united Reich at peace with it's neighbors---all a front of course for his real desires and plans. it's all well and good to say "put up the sword" but in fact if there had been no resistance internally or externally in response to this holocaust he and his supporters would have continued killing and killing millions and millions until they MIGHT have ran out of enemies and victims.
to say that there is much blame to go around including those who just "looked the other way" or simply "followed orders" of what they believed was legitimate authority and yes, those who were even nominally Christian individually and collectively who were involved in killing even in defense of themselves and their families are caught up in a terrible moral dilemma at best (and they like all of us are and will be responsible for our acts to a just---but hopefully merciful---God). however, to somehow try and make the horrors and tragedy of millions caught in a terrible war SPECIFICALLY the fault of Christianity or organized religion doesn't work for me and I think most serious historians or theologians. none of the states involved were officially "Christian" (except NOMINALLY Great Britain which had a "church by law established" and a head of state---the king---whose official title is "defender of the faith") and none seriously invoked religion or God as the MAIN reason they went to war for offense or defense (except MAYBE the Japanese invoking the "spirit of the divine race" and their Emperor "the son of heaven")---many no doubt called upon God for help---but likely more for peace and safety from harm rather than death or destruction for their enemies..
Jesus would--NEVER-- condone brother in Christ vs brother in Christ-- and his real teachers know it to start with. The Christians were hunted down after most of the apostles were killed--they didn't fight, even against their enemies--Jesus taught to return love to ones enemy, Return evil for evil to no one. They drove spikes through Jesus--he was the example--Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.
As to your post, however, the claims about the catholic church being traceable back to the 1st century and the bones of Peter as 1st Pope are very dubious.
And the attempt to show that the bones found under the Vatican were that of Pope Peter I failed to stand up. In fact I recall that they were female.
Gods word is clear--Do not call any man--FATHER--in a spiritual sense.( Matt 23:9)--this did not mean ones Dad--it meant ones spiritual teacher--simple bible milk, yet Catholicism cannot understand it to this day. by referring to one as holy Father--they are trying to elevate themselves into Gods position.
It is very hard to understand how a single mortal can be fooled by this religion anymore.
Only a billion. You can go to Catholic.com to find out why we believe. Just why do so many believe that? Aren't you curious at all to get it from the source?
I love everyone. Believers, non believers, Catholics, non Catholics. I don't judge another man for his beliefs. Who am I to judge? A simple sinner in no position to judge. Aren't we all? Live and love. Let God judge.
Only a billion. You can go to Catholic.com to find out why we believe. Just why do so many believe that? Aren't you curious at all to get it from the source?
Not at all, I know the teachings of Jesus--not 1 trinity religion on earth listens to Jesus. This is what Jesus taught true followers do--John 4:22-24
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