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Old 04-03-2016, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Another twisting of Sodom and Gomorrah as being about inhospitable behavior instead of homosexual behavior. The deceit never ends.
It was about inhospitable behaviour...or are you suggesting that every single male in the city, young and old, was homosexual?

 
Old 04-03-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Another twisting of Sodom and Gomorrah as being about inhospitable behavior instead of homosexual behavior. The deceit never ends.
Sorry you are incapable of reading the plain text. I do believe Isaiah has a similar verse. Since you are in the mood to cut verses out of your Bible, then cut the words attributed to God by Isaiah. God is speaking to the leaders of Sodom and Gomorrah through most of the chapter:

"Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight. Cease to do evil, Learn to do good; Seek justice, Reprove the ruthless, Defend the orphan, Plead for the widow. "
( Isaiah 1:16-17)

You have been duped by your denominational handlers who would never dare provide ALL Scripture so people could use their own brain. That should make you suspicious of their motivation.

But then, perhaps you are not an honest purveyor of Scripture, and simply one who is in need of defense of a bigoted opinion.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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Another twisting of Sodom and Gomorrah as being about inhospitable behavior instead of homosexual behavior. The deceit never ends.
Well, it should be simple enough as long as you have the ability to read.

Provide evidence that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexual behavior.

In fact, provide evidence that homosexuality occurred in S&G AT ALL!

You know what? You won't be able to because IT AIN'T THERE!

But ...I'm challenging you anyway to either put up or shut up.

Actually, it will probably do you good to actually read about Sodom and Gomorrah because I would wager that you've never actually picked up a Bible to read this story to begin with!

So ...once again . . .provide ONE passage of scripture where homosexuality is mentioned EVEN ONCE in all of the accounts of Sodom and Gomorrah!

Good luck!
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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It was about inhospitable behaviour...or are you suggesting that every single male in the city, young and old, was homosexual?
Actually, the Jewish Bible doesn't say "male" anyway. It states that ALL the people (not just men) from the city came to Lot's door. Both young and old, everyone from every end of the city. See Below:

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1And the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom, and Lot saw and arose toward them, and he prostrated himself on his face to the ground.

אוַיָּבֹאוּ שְׁנֵי הַמַּלְאָכִים סְדֹמָה בָּעֶרֶב וְלוֹט ישֵׁב בְּשַׁעַר סְדֹם וַיַּרְא לוֹט וַיָּקָם לִקְרָאתָם וַיִּשְׁתַּחוּ אַפַּיִם אָרְצָה:

2And he said, "Behold now my lords, please turn to your servant's house and stay overnight and wash your feet, and you shall arise early and go on your way." And they said, "No, but we will stay overnight in the street."

בוַיֹּאמֶר הִנֶּה נָּא אֲדֹנַי סוּרוּ נָא אֶל בֵּית עַבְדְּכֶם וְלִינוּ וְרַחֲצוּ רַגְלֵיכֶם וְהִשְׁכַּמְתֶּם וַהֲלַכְתֶּם לְדַרְכְּכֶם וַיֹּאמְרוּ לֹּא כִּי בָרְחוֹב נָלִין:

3And he urged them strongly, and they turned in to him, and came into his house, and he made them a feast, and he baked unleavened cakes, and they ate.

גוַיִּפְצַר בָּם מְאֹד וַיָּסֻרוּ אֵלָיו וַיָּבֹאוּ אֶל בֵּיתוֹ וַיַּעַשׂ לָהֶם מִשְׁתֶּה וּמַצּוֹת אָפָה וַיֹּאכֵלוּ:

4When they had not yet retired, and the people of the city, the people of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, the entire populace from every end[of the city].

דטֶרֶם יִשְׁכָּבוּ וְאַנְשֵׁי הָעִיר אַנְשֵׁי סְדֹם נָסַבּוּ עַל הַבַּיִת מִנַּעַר וְעַד זָקֵן כָּל הָעָם מִקָּצֶה:

5And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us be intimate with them."

הוַיִּקְרְאוּ אֶל לוֹט וַיֹּאמְרוּ לוֹ אַיֵּה הָאֲנָשִׁים אֲשֶׁר בָּאוּ אֵלֶיךָ הַלָּיְלָה הוֹצִיאֵם אֵלֵינוּ וְנֵדְעָה אֹתָם:
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Another twisting of Sodom and Gomorrah as being about inhospitable behavior instead of homosexual behavior. The deceit never ends.
Just keeping thinking about them and what they do.

Never stop.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Actually, the Jewish Bible doesn't say "male" anyway. It states that ALL the people (not just men) from the city came to Lot's door. Both young and old, everyone from every end of the city.
...and why would good, moral Lot offer his two virgin daughters to men who were gay anyway?
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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...and why would good, moral Lot offer his two virgin daughters to men who were gay anyway?
There are many ridiculous stories in the bible but Lot's is right up there in the absurd department.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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Some people are just not meant to breed. Call it gay or what ever. Are we to persecute those who do not supply us with a future population...Biblically speaking it states not to lay with a man as if he were a woman...and also there is a passage that tells you not to spill your sperm on the ground and waste it...In other words in old tribal society it was very important for the survival ad prosperity of the group to have as many members as possible....I can not imagine God being disturbed about Gays....who are born with that predisposition of not breeding...


What I would imagine would be a God issue is the forceful social sexual indoctrination of young people who have no sexual experience and to convince them they are gay...this type of sexual interference is bad. Leave the kids alone and let nature take it's course.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Nonetheless there is no way you should have taken him seriously on his claims of having gay men stop their cars to proposition him .
I'm capable of deciding how I take what someone says.

If I want to be told how to react....I'll join a cult.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Jesus said that the days of His return would be like Sodom and Gomorrah -- and so it is. Will He let it get to the point where these night revelers start beating on doors demanding perverted sex? Time will tell.
Time has told. For over 2000 years Christianity has claimed that JtC is on his way back. He still ain't here!
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