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Old 10-13-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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"What a crock"? You should talk. Maybe if you read Romans 4:17-25.

Reading is not his problem...comprehension is.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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Weak.

Typical though, of the average fundie.
You respond just like atheists do....are you?
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Old 10-13-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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False... ignorant... condescending... typical...
Being a fan of people having library cards is false, ignorant and condescending? Really? Wow. You fundamentalists have some odd ideas about library cards. I'll admit is IS typical for me. I'm a BIG fan of our public library system and encourage people to use it. A library card is a wonderful thing.

Do you have a library card?

Or are they tools of the devil?
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You respond just like atheists do....are you?
Nope.

But I consider your post a compliment. Many of the finest minds on CD belong to atheists.
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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Ah . . . the infamous magic words point of view again! What a crock. The moment Jesus died and was "born again" as Spirit His Holy Spirit became available to all human consciousness as the Comforter sent in His name. No magic words needed, no abbra-cadabra required.
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"What a crock"? You should talk. Maybe if you read Romans 4:17-25.
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Reading is not his problem...comprehension is.
Say the men who abandon all reason to believe in magic words, fables and myths as historical fact and an impossible 100% inerrant and infallible Bible in the hands of men!!!
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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Can we use that same rule of thumb to adding eternal hell to the being saved scriptures in the New Testament ?.
Uh, a burning eternal hell is an addition as well and not taught in scripture. Which of course has nothing to do with my point that context shows it appliedto the 120 years before the flood and "after the flood" is not there and an addition. Just like eternal punishment in Hell is an addition.

Your sounding like a "fundamentalist" in your argument on this. Add what isn't there.
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Old 10-13-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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Where did you get this piece of information? It certainly is NOT in the Bible. It is a personal interpretation grabbing onto the closest period of time in the vicinity which just happenstance is 120 years.

The way the passage read is: There were Nephilim in the earth in "those days". "Those days" can only mean BEFORE the flood. Nobody would argue this. "And also AFTER THAT" is clearly unequivocally "after the flood". Again, nobody would dispute this. I asked my wife who knows nothing about the Bible story of the flood. I asked to read the passage. She said without hesitation, "After that" is "after those days".

Poll 10 strangers and ask them what "and also after that" refers to and they will say exactly what my wife said.

You cannot escape this fact, expatCA, no matter how hard you try or how many smokescreens you throw up.


https://www.learnthebible.org/the-so...n-genesis.html
It is easy to "escape" as the context is plain.

Genesis 6:1-5 KJV Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.


This speaks of the time when men began to breed and multiply, which was long before the flood.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

"After that" applies to after men began to multiply and the "Sons of God" started to get involved. That period "after that" start lasted 120 years. as we see in the next verses.

5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. {both...: Heb. from man unto beast}

The flood ended that time period, thus the "after that" was up till the flood.

Simple context. None of it can apply to after the flood as the flood comes after the account spoken of in the preceding verses. Many want to find fault, but have to ignore context and the very simple to see historical progression of events in time.
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Old 10-13-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: New England
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Uh, a burning eternal hell is an addition as well and not taught in scripture. Which of course has nothing to do with my point that context shows it appliedto the 120 years before the flood and "after the flood" is not there and an addition. Just like eternal punishment in Hell is an addition.

Your sounding like a "fundamentalist" in your argument on this. Add what isn't there.
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In plain English it does not say after the flood, that is your addition.

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Well ok, saved from annihilation, i forgot you believed that is what we are saved from. My point being adding to the scripture when it's convenient.
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Old 10-13-2015, 10:15 PM
 
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Nope.
But I consider your post a compliment. Many of the finest minds on CD belong to atheists.
Of course that would be based on your own level of comprehension, which seems a tad underwhelming.
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Old 10-13-2015, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Nope.

But I consider your post a compliment. Many of the finest minds on CD belong to atheists.
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Of course that would be based on your own level of comprehension, which seems a tad underwhelming.
News Flash: TroutDude makes the list. LMAO

(Stan needs a library card or dictionary, maybe then - he will comprehend what condescending means.)
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