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Old 02-16-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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No jimmie. I use what is CONSISTENT with the agape love revealed and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus and reject what is contradictory. You accept everything and test nothing for consistency with the Spirit of agape love (who Jesus revealed IS God). Instead, you excuse or rationalize the inconsistencies and contradictions with nonsense like "God works in mysterious ways," or "who can know the mind of God" or whatever. We CAN know the "mind of God" because we have the "mind of Christ." You do not believe Jesus. You believe a book that tells us about Him.
Yes, I accept everything Jesus said. You would do well to do the same.
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Old 02-16-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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No jimmie. I use what is CONSISTENT with the agape love revealed and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus and reject what is contradictory. You accept everything and test nothing for consistency with the Spirit of agape love (who Jesus revealed IS God). Instead, you excuse or rationalize the inconsistencies and contradictions with nonsense like "God works in mysterious ways," or "who can know the mind of God" or whatever. We CAN know the "mind of God" because we have the "mind of Christ." You do not believe Jesus. You believe a book that tells us about Him.
You misunderstand scripture and the power of God.

Jesus never said God is love. That is a distortion. John may have said it, but Jesus did not, so if John said it then He strayed from the words Jesus gave his followers when Jesus said to abide in His word.

Jesus said God is spirit and the word of God is spirit so God is the truth, His word.

"If you abide in me and my word abides in you, you may ask what you will and it shall be done for you. My Father is glorified in your bearing much fruit and becoming my disciple."

"God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth(the word of god)."

"It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is useless, the words I spoke to you are spirit and life."
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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So Richard, how many books does your bible have? Does it include the Gospels and all the epistles?
Why would it include them?...
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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No jimmie. I use what is CONSISTENT with the agape love revealed and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus and reject what is contradictory. You accept everything and test nothing for consistency with the Spirit of agape love (who Jesus revealed IS God). Instead, you excuse or rationalize the inconsistencies and contradictions with nonsense like "God works in mysterious ways," or "who can know the mind of God" or whatever. We CAN know the "mind of God" because we have the "mind of Christ." You do not believe Jesus. You believe a book that tells us about Him.
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Yes, I accept everything Jesus said. You would do well to do the same.
You accept that everything attributed to Jesus actually was from Jesus without testing anything. That is not only naive' but dangerous to your soul. You never ask the question does that sound like something the Jesus as revealed to us would actually say or do??? That is not following Jesus, that is blindly following a book without testing its Spirit, something we are specifically told to do about everything.
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You misunderstand scripture and the power of God.
Somebody is not all there if they actually thinks the most important thing our God wants us to do with our lives is go around parroting whatever words we THINK Jesus said. You have no clue about scripture or God.
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Old 02-17-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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You accept that everything attributed to Jesus actually was from Jesus without testing anything. That is not only naive' but dangerous to your soul. You never ask the question does that sound like something the Jesus as revealed to us would actually say or do??? That is not following Jesus, that is blindly following a book without testing its Spirit, something we are specifically told to do about everything.
Not at all. It's the same message as the Father in the OT.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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Not at all. It's the same message as the Father in the OT.
And what is that message from the OT?...
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:37 PM
 
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You accept that everything attributed to Jesus actually was from Jesus without testing anything. That is not only naive' but dangerous to your soul. You never ask the question does that sound like something the Jesus as revealed to us would actually say or do??? That is not following Jesus, that is blindly following a book without testing its Spirit, something we are specifically told to do about everything.
Somebody is not all there if they actually thinks the most important thing our God wants us to do with our lives is go around parroting whatever words we THINK Jesus said. You have no clue about scripture or God.
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Not at all. It's the same message as the Father in the OT.
The Descriptions of God in the OT are the product of our ancestors' barbaric ignorance and superstition. You have not studied the culture and beliefs of our ancestors during that era and assume a modern mindset was operating. It wasn't Do YOU think you should harm cripples so as not to be kinder to them than the God who made them crippled???? Stop accepting ancient primitive and barbaric understanding and follow the God Jesus revealed and unambiguously demonstrated.
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The Descriptions of God in the OT are the product of our ancestors' barbaric ignorance and superstition. You have not studied the culture and beliefs of our ancestors during that era and assume a modern mindset was operating. It wasn't Do YOU think you should harm cripples so as not to be kinder to them than the God who made them crippled???? Stop accepting ancient primitive and barbaric understanding and follow the God Jesus revealed and unambiguously demonstrated.
The God Jesus revealed by ALL His words. I got no problem with that.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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The Descriptions of God in the OT are the product of our ancestors' barbaric ignorance and superstition. You have not studied the culture and beliefs of our ancestors during that era and assume a modern mindset was operating. It wasn't Do YOU think you should harm cripples so as not to be kinder to them than the God who made them crippled???? Stop accepting ancient primitive and barbaric understanding and follow the God Jesus revealed and unambiguously demonstrated.
Contemporary descriptions of God are the product of contemporary ignorance and superstition.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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It boggles my mind so many believe in these old mystic folk tales. Not much different than the ayatollahs.
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