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Old 07-27-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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One can only wonder why you are not fully employed in some hospital curing the incurable.
Do you have any peer-reviewed documentation that deals with your 'miraculous' healing? Or perhaps some newspaper, tv or documentary evidence?
You sound like the mean atheist guy she refused to help, Rafius. You sure you don't know her???
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You sound like the mean atheist guy she refused to help, Rafius. You sure you don't know her???
Damn! I've been rumbled!
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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But, the issue of starving children was really what was being referred to,
not venomous people ... innocent children.
You believe they are starving because of karma,
which would make them not innocent, so does that mean you wouldn't
attempt to manifest what they need into their lives?
Who knows why a soul is born in whatever situation.
An another issue is I believe we are ALL innocent and pure.

I actually don't use the would karma much bec it is thought of so often as a sort of punishment.
I know that there is no punishment, per se...lessons, sure, but why ...like
a potter making a perfect vase...we are growing in love, patience, wisdom of all sorts.
It's a wonderful thing.

My knowledge of things is that not one solitary thing is not perfect or is part of a plan.
What that plan is I don't know. I only know my plan for my early years.
Would I help a starving child...yes...do I forgive a murderer and a rapist...yes.
(That makes my friends mad.)

Could each person that is suffering be here to pull out of all humanity to
feed and aid every starving person on the planet ..yes.

Just think if every person woke up and helped each country's food and water and medical issues!
I think the whole planet would be healed...and we would move into some new consciousness.

An individual's suffering here can have many reasons...to help their own growth and
by volunteering to go thru some hardship ...work with others to show kindness...
to stop being self-centered!
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Who knows why a soul is born in whatever situation.
An another issue is I believe we are ALL innocent and pure.

I actually don't use the would karma much bec it is thought of so often as a sort of punishment.
I know that there is no punishment, per se...lessons, sure, but why ...like
a potter making a perfect vase...we are growing in love, patience, wisdom of all sorts.
It's a wonderful thing.

My knowledge of things is that not one solitary thing is not perfect or is part of a plan.
What that plan is I don't know. I only know my plan for my early years.
Would I help a starving child...yes...do I forgive a murderer and a rapist...yes.
(That makes my friends mad.)

Could each person that is suffering be here to pull out of all humanity to
feed and aid every starving person on the planet ..yes.

Just think if every person woke up and helped each country's food and water and medical issues!
I think the whole planet would be healed...and we would move into some new consciousness.

An individual's suffering here can have many reasons...to help their own growth and
by volunteering to go thru some hardship ...work with others to show kindness...
to stop being self-centered!
MissH, I'm thinking of this:

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And when we have developed an intimate relationship with our Creator (that
permeates every particle and 'space' in existence)...just
the hint of a thought and He will manifest that for you.
I could not tell you here the seemingly impossible things 'He' has made happen within
an hour of thinking of my 'predicament' !

I tell you sometimes of the $100,000 given to me to pay my mortgage...
I tell you of healings I have facilitated in the ICU, coma, machines keeping them alive ....
yet, daily things are
WAY more profound...'impossible things'! ...

When you love God...but understand, you must know something before you really love them or else you are just loving an idea, an image, the feeling you get when you imagine them;
When you know and love God...'He' essentially becomes a moth to a flame.
The love in your heart is something 'He' simply can not resist.

It is impossible for 'Him'...as it is any lover or father to not give you everything your
little heart desires.
If your heart desires that starving children have enough food -- if you even have just the hint of a thought that you want that to happen -- would God give that to you?
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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MissH, I'm thinking of this:
If your heart desires that starving children have enough food -- if you even have just the hint of a thought that you want that to happen -- would God give that to you?
Good question...
one of the things you learn when you have a connection with the Father
and know how things work is there are other factors ...many factors...

A friend wanted me to do the SAME thing I had done for her on 2 houses...pray for them to sell!
However, it didn't happen on this third one...why?
Well guess what ?
SHE really did not want to let it go! It meant so much to her deeply....what a property, I must say.
(200 year old Blue spruces, a pond...a benevolent spirit that hung on the land!)
She didn't tell me this, tho.


When there are many other factors...'me', just asking or demanding or commanding
all children in the world, "Be healthy NOW!"...
There are other forces. I accept this.

It's like there is a system or an equation....ie, When ALL want this the world will feed all of it's poor.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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One can only wonder why you are not fully employed in some hospital curing the incurable.

Do you have any peer-reviewed documentation that deals with your 'miraculous' healing? Or perhaps some newspaper, tv or documentary evidence?
No...thought not!
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:03 AM
 
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Good question...
one of the things you learn when you have a connection with the Father
and know how things work is there are other factors ...many factors...

A friend wanted me to do the SAME thing I had done for her on 2 houses...pray for them to sell!
However, it didn't happen on this third one...why?
Well guess what ?
SHE really did not want to let it go! It meant so much to her deeply....what a property, I must say.
(200 year old Blue spruces, a pond...a benevolent spirit that hung on the land!)
She didn't tell me this, tho.


When there are many other factors...'me', just asking or demanding or commanding
all children in the world, "Be healthy NOW!"...
There are other forces. I accept this.

It's like there is a system or an equation....ie, When ALL want this the world will feed all of it's poor.

Yes, there are many other factors, like His good (outer court), acceptable (inner court) and perfect (Most Holy place) will being done.


When I was unsaved and in the outer court, He answered some of my prayers, even as a child, but I didn't realize it or recognize His voice, until I was in the inner court. He does the same with everyone, but not everyone comes into the inner court. So man also ties His hands somewhat, because He will not violate His Word, but if we draw nigh unto Him He will draw nigh unto us. Peace
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Ha! I just hung out with an acquaintance last night ...last time was over a month ago.
He said, I healed him last time we were together*...he had what he considered to be
a seriously scary kidney issue. He was very burdened.

I vaguely remember doing a silent healing...we talked a lot about him knocking off
his fear and negative thinking...and developing a more positive mindset.
I may have mentioned I was a healer**, I dunno...I guess I did!
Must have.
I think I was talking to him about how he could heal himself...we
all have that power....but, not when there is fear present.
He had shaved his beard, got a haircut and looked so much younger!
It was great to see him smiling.

It is a very common question...Why don't you hang out in a hospital?
If I had a dime for every time...hahahah
Right back at ya...Why don't you? You have the same capability anyone does?

* Now watch! I'll get guff for it....hahahahahahahahahaha
** I'm not, of course, the Holy Spirit is.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Ha! I just hung out with an acquaintance last night ...last time was over a month ago.
He said, I healed him last time we were together*...he had what he considered to be
a seriously scary kidney issue. He was very burdened.

I vaguely remember doing a silent healing...we talked a lot about him knocking off
his fear and negative thinking...and developing a more positive mindset.
I may have mentioned I was a healer**, I dunno...I guess I did!
Must have.
I think I was talking to him about how he could heal himself...we
all have that power....but, not when there is fear present.
He had shaved his beard, got a haircut and looked so much younger!
It was great to see him smiling.

It is a very common question...Why don't you hang out in a hospital?
If I had a dime for every time...hahahah
Right back at ya...Why don't you? You have the same capability anyone does?

* Now watch! I'll get guff for it....hahahahahahahahahaha
** I'm not, of course, the Holy Spirit is.
Have you considered getting professional help for your condition?
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: USA
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It is a very common question...Why don't you hang out in a hospital?
If I had a dime for every time...hahahah
Right back at ya...Why don't you? You have the same capability anyone does?

.
Well, no, by your own testimony this is not true. We do not all have the same capability. You have spent hours and hours and hours a day for decades in order to cultivate a relationship with God wherein God is drawn to you like a moth to flame and gives you every desire of your heart (unless it is blocked by others). The rest of us are limited by our beliefs, beliefs which we have because we don't know God the way that you do.

You, and apparently Rbbi, are among a very elite few. To quote Spidey's uncle: with great power comes great responsibility.


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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn View Post
And when we have developed an intimate relationship with our Creator (that
permeates every particle and 'space' in existence)...just
the hint of a thought and He will manifest that for you.
I could not tell you here the seemingly impossible things 'He' has made happen within
an hour of thinking of my 'predicament' !
Quote:
When you love God...but understand, you must know something before you really love them or else you are just loving an idea, an image, the feeling you get when you imagine them;
When you know and love God...'He' essentially becomes a moth to a flame.
The love in your heart is something 'He' simply can not resist.

It is impossible for 'Him'...as it is any lover or father to not give you everything your
little heart desires.

This is something only those that hold 'Him' ever so dearly to themselves know intimately ...
otherwise, this relationship sounds absurd and like a fairy tale, magical and made up.
I know.

** 'He', Who has no gender


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When a person, any person, not pointing to you personally believes in sin,
limitations, separation, that they are their body, a 'bad' God, all their perceptions will
lead to proof of their beliefs....Christian, Sikh, Jew, atheist...

Just as my beliefs unfold around me.
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