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There is nothing backhanded about it, we just see things differently.
Besides, whoever said it was painless or without consequences.
So, you can drop the self-absorbed notions.
More backhanded comments.
You have assumed so much without asking me anything about how I feel or what we are going through. You haven't asked about his health or mine. You have asked about my pain or his or the consequences. It just about how you see things and what you would do...self-absorbed? HA!
It's clear you have no idea how to comfort someone. You have nothing to offer but arm-chair quarterbacking.
Have you ever dealt with a meth addict? He wasn't going thru a hard time according to him. I had nothing he wanted.
Nice avoidance. Again....where did Jesus tell us to turn our backs on friends?
I know EXACTLY what addiction does. I've seen the damage up close and personal. Friends get into trouble. Family gets into trouble. I've seen death and I've seen damage you cannot imagine. Meth addiction, heroin addiction, alcoholism......life is hard. Life is brutal. Some of us put on our helmets and stay to help. Some of us believe Jesus wore a helmet too.
You have assumed so much without asking me anything about how I feel or what we are going through. You haven't asked about his health or mine. You have asked about my pain or his or the consequences. It just about how you see things and what you would do...self-absorbed? HA!
It's clear you have no idea how to comfort someone. You have nothing to offer but arm-chair quarterbacking.
If that is all you saw, and heard, then you are making the assumptions.
I was merely referencing what it is to lay your life down for another.
It's only if the person is still practicing the wrong doing according to the Bible. Because a person WAS a drug addict or WAS an alcoholic shouldn't be a reason to avoid them. In fact a person that is repentant the Bible says to give them extra care and support.
The question was:
Are people really so afraid that if they are in a church with a drug addict or alcoholic, they'll become addicted themselves? Or with a gossip, a glutton, an adulterer, etc. -- will they become one too? If not, why the need to remove them from your church?
This. Are people really so afraid that if they are in a church with a drug addict or alcoholic, they'll become addicted themselves? Or with a gossip, a glutton, an adulterer, etc. -- will they become one too? If it's a weakness for you, I could understand distancing yourself. Otherwise, just don't be involved in doing whatever they're doing that goes against your conscience, and don't enable them. Seems pretty simple. No need to shun them.
You are twisting words. Besides, your disagreement is with the Bible, since the advice is from there, not from anyone from here.
Your disagreement is with the Bible, since the advice is from there, not from anyone from here.
The question wasn't about what the bible says. The question was: Are people really so afraid that if they are in a church with a drug addict or alcoholic, they'll become addicted themselves? Or with a gossip, a glutton, an adulterer, etc. -- will they become one too?
And another question: do you find that church members who are, for instance, alcoholics or addicts come to worship services or bible studies, etc., and are drinking or doing drugs there?
You have assumed so much without asking me anything about how I feel or what we are going through. You haven't asked about his health or mine. You have asked about my pain or his or the consequences. It just about how you see things and what you would do...self-absorbed? HA!
It's clear you have no idea how to comfort someone. You have nothing to offer but arm-chair quarterbacking.
Some people insist on trying to make others look bad, while bragging about how good they are themselves.
The Bible is not God, and can you not think for yourself?
I didn't say Bible is God, I said your disagreement is with the Bible.
You do not have to agree with it. You are free to believe anything you want.
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