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Old 07-26-2016, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Hebrew 9:22 has nothing to do with forgiving sin or a life for a life. If that's what you think?
Then what does it mean?
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Hebrew 9:22 has nothing to do with forgiving sin or a life for a life. If that's what you think?
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Then what does it mean?
A "Last Will and Testament" has no power while we yet live.
He gave his life to open the door to the New Covenant.

In plain English, one not written on fragments of stone.
But within the minds and hearts of men, who can freely forgive.

And can be freely forgiven without paying a high-price.

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Old 07-26-2016, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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A "Last Will and Testament" has no power while we yet live.
He gave his life to open the door to the New Covenant.

In plain English, one not written on fragments of stone.
But within the minds and hearts of men, who can freely forgive.

And can be freely forgiven without paying a high-price.

The only sentence that makes sense is the second one, with which I agree. The rest is poetic gibberish.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The only sentence that makes sense is the second one, with which I agree. The rest is poetic gibberish.
Is it not his will that we love and forgive one-another?

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Old 07-26-2016, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Is it not his will that we love and forgive one-another?

Yes, but that has nothing to do with substitutionary atonement.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, but that has nothing to do with substitutionary atonement.
Jeremiah 31:33-34
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

A substitution was never necessary, it was merely a matter of the heart.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Jeremiah 31:33-34
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

A substitution was never necessary, it was merely a matter of the heart.
That is a beautiful passage. It speaks forward to the relationship believers have with God, through Jesus Christ.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jeremiah 31:33-34
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

A substitution was never necessary, it was merely a matter of the heart.
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That is a beautiful passage. It speaks forward to the relationship believers have with God, through Jesus Christ.
What God wanted was love, faith, humility, mercy, and righteousness.
Things the (written) law could not provide; it had to come from the heart.

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Old 07-27-2016, 08:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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The only sentence that makes sense is the second one, with which I agree. The rest is poetic gibberish.
There was not even a hint of gibberish in that post.
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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There was not even a hint of gibberish in that post.
Perhaps. I have trouble understanding Jerwade's poetic writing style.
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