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There is no Biblical statement that says that God is some magical force called Love. It describes love as an attribute of God. Please stop taking that verse out of context.
Taking out your additions to his statement.
There is no Biblical statement that says that God is (removed) Love.
We are left with a blatantly false claim -- showing more of your cherry picking the Bible.
1 John 4:
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7 Beloved, let us love one another; for love is of God, and he who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God; for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the expiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.
And with the context there we can see this is NOT taken out of context. Paul explains right there what he means. If you do not love then you do not know God, and if you do love then you do know God. This is right there in the text!
The most you can say is that God isn't equivalent to the word "love." So throwing the word "love" around does not mean you know God. What is required is the intimate knowledge of love which comes from being moved to action by love.
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There is no Biblical statement that says that God is (removed) Love.
We are left with a blatantly false claim -- showing more of your cherry picking the Bible.
1 John 4:
And with the context there we can see this is NOT taken out of context. Paul explains right there what he means. If you do not love then you do not know God, and if you do love then you do know God. This is right there in the text!
The most you can say is that God isn't equivalent to the word "love." So throwing the word "love" around does not mean you know God. What is required is the intimate knowledge of love which comes from being moved to action by love.
It clearly says that God is love. Correct....Throwing the word a"love" around does not mean you know God.
Absoutely, God is love, and yes, that is not all He is . He is much greater then any love, HE is GOD !
Oh, they know about God . They just don't want to acknowledge all that God is . Because if they do then a lot of things would have to change in their lives in order to have understanding, wisdon in God's truth and a personal relationship with Him . As it stands now they have no idea what that relationship consist of and too why we read what we do in their post !
If they would truly acknowledge the truth that is wrote within the scriptures especially what Jesus taught they will see the true light in who they really are as a person and everything they represent has been a lie .
But of course that is what sin (darkness) does to a person it deceives them in their life and it covers up God's truth . Especially using the excuse you can't believe everything wrote in the Bible it has too many contradictions!
Come on, lets be real any one know when your looking for a certain thing and in this case contradictions that is what God is going to let them find because that is where their heart is focus on which is unbelief in and about God and He knows that and He knows what their really trying to do and He hides the truth from them .
I tell you Jesus had these ppl pegged long time ago and when you read their post you see this scripture coming into reality showing the truth of and why their denial, "And this is the verdict, that the light came into the world, but people preferred darkness to light, because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come toward the light, so that his works might not be exposed. But whoever lives the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be clearly seen as done in God." John 3:19-21
and you will notice they fight against this scripture all the time when it is presented to them .
So true. If they knew him they would love and obey Him. They would rather do what they think is right.
So true. If they knew him they would love and obey Him. They would rather do what they think is right.
I disagree with the whole obedience thing. We are not dogs. As we consider, mull over, reflect on, meditate on and set our affections on that which is
lovely, true, beautiful, noble and of good report, we in time become those things. Before we know it we are doing the things that are lovely, true,bbeautiful,bnoble and of a good report without even knowing it.
Your way is look at me...
Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, WHEN did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? WHEN did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? WHEN did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you
This reveals the problem, pcamps. They do NOT understand what a Spirit IS. They think only in human terms about attributes of human beings especially their emotions. They have no clue that God IS a Holy Spirit (Consciousness) and that Spirit IS agape love. They keep floundering around in the ancient ignorance of a Trinity of "persons" because they do not understand that personhood is conveyed through consciousness.
Amen!!!
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Originally Posted by pcamps
I find this incredible coming from someone who believes God is a trinity....Jesus is God....the Father is God....and the Spirit is God and the reverse.. Let me ask you a question Is God > Spirit or is Spirit > God ?. You cannot separate God from what he is, it's absurd to try and do so, so God is love (Agape) , so of if you see Agape love you are seeing God. There is not any given time when God is not love..... I know you hate the thought of this because you demand bible fundamentalism justice (shariah law) served upon all those YOU deem guilty.
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Originally Posted by pcamps
Why do you think love is the theme throughout the gospels and New Testament . Jesus taught us to abide in it, Paul said be rooted and established in it, speak the truth in it, and The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love, that the love of God surpasses knowledge. God is love, God is Joy, God is peace, why do you have such a problem with God BEING these things? Please stop trying to stop God being God, there will only be one outcome..... Love will triumph over you.
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. The spirit of love.
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Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
1 John 4:
And with the context there we can see this is NOT taken out of context. Paul explains right there what he means. If you do not love then you do not know God, and if you do love then you do know God. This is right there in the text!
The most you can say is that God isn't equivalent to the word "love." So throwing the word "love" around does not mean you know God. What is required is the intimate knowledge of love which comes from being moved to action by love.
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Originally Posted by expatCA
So true. If they knew him they would love and obey Him. They would rather do what they think is right.
No. Obedience has nothing to do with love. It is a self-centered response out of a desire for reward or fear of punishment from the Master. That is NOT remotely "being moved to action by" agape love (which is the love referred to in those passages).
Love or law do absolutely no good to those serving a false god. Every one has Love in them, Even Hitler loved his family and friends--that love is not enough, it is not the love Jesus spoke of.
It is NOT the agape love that Jesus spoke of and unambiguously demonstrated and asked His disciples to display toward one another. The following post reveals the game played by Finn using the kind of love you referred to. It is WHY I use the redundant word "agape" with love to prevent the kind of deception Finn is trying to engage in by pretending he doesn't understand that God IS the Holy Spirit of agape love that is referred to. When we agape love we are "born of God" and know God. If we do NOT agape love, we do NOT know God.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
I have asked some here if love is god, and some said yes, while some others danced around the question. The question got them thinking.
God is love <> Love is god
Still playing your game, Finn??? God IS Spirit. God IS agape love. God IS Holy. Therefore the Holy Spirit of agape love IS God. It is NOT rocket science unless you are laboring under the so-called mysterious and absurd doctrine of the Trinity thinking actual "persons" are involved instead of a unifying Spirit.
You seem to be saying that whatever you think is right can never be wrong.
You seem to be saying thoughts that are in opposition to yours are always wrong?
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