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Old 08-24-2016, 03:10 AM
 
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TWO Corinthians were walking down the road....

Again and again one must remember that any item cannot be used to prove its own existence or truth...
I think, therefore I am...Rene Descarte...
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Old 08-24-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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The god presented in the OT is NOT the same God in the NT..

So true. Those Gods are Night and Day. God had sex with Mary and suddenly became nicer.

hmmmm I think that lesson has been lost of some.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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Warning in advance that some god is about to murder innocent women, children and men for "sins"that were not theirs does not prove that god to be LOVING and MERCIFUL..mercy does not entail MURDER, RAPE and SLAVERY..

So how does your god deal with your continual wickedness?



Murder, rape, slavery are done by the wicked, not by God. No one is innocent. Each individual pays their own wages of sin= death. Jesus died for repented sin, not willfull or practiced sin.
Did you ever read 2Timothy 3--it describes todays world--there is no innocence there. Few, have washed their robes white.
Am I continuously wicked?
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Old 08-24-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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Murder, rape, slavery are done by the wicked, not by God. No one is innocent. Each individual pays their own wages of sin= death. Jesus died for repented sin, not willfull or practiced sin.
Did you ever read 2Timothy 3--it describes todays world--there is no innocence there. Few, have washed their robes white.
Am I continuously wicked?
If you "sin" you are continuously wicked according to you and your god.


◄ Deuteronomy 20:17 ►
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Completely destroy them--the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites--as the LORD your God has commanded you.



Why wouldn't god do the dirty work?

In 1 Samuel 15:2-3, God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" God ordered similar things when the Israelites were invading the promised land (Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6; 20:16-18). Why would God have the Israelites exterminate an entire group of people, women and children included?



GOD commanded MOSES to KILL the captives, keep the virgins for slaves..



The Midianite War

The Lord spoke to Moses: 31:2 “Exact vengeance for the Israelites on the Midianites – after that you will be gathered to your people.”

31:3 So Moses spoke to the people: “Arm men from among you for the war, to attack the Midianites and to execute the Lord’s vengeance on Midian.

31:4 You must send to the battle a thousand men from every tribe throughout all the tribes of Israel.”

31:5 So a thousand from every tribe, twelve thousand armed for battle in all, were provided out of the thousands of Israel.

Campaign Against the Midianites

31:6 So Moses sent them to the war, one thousand from every tribe, with Phinehas son of Eleazar the priest, who was in charge of the holy articles and the signal trumpets.

31:7 They fought against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses, and they killed every male.

31:8 They killed the kings of Midian in addition to those slain – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – five Midianite kings. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword.

31:9 The Israelites took the women of Midian captives along with their little ones, and took all their herds, all their flocks, and all their goods as plunder.

31:10 They burned all their towns where they lived and all their encampments.

31:11 They took all the plunder and all the spoils, both people and animals.

31:12 They brought the captives and the spoils and the plunder to Moses, to Eleazar the priest, and to the Israelite community, to the camp on the plains of Moab, along the Jordan River across from Jericho.

31:13 Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the community went out to meet them outside the camp.
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Old 08-24-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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I said "I do" a long time ago ...
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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If you "sin" you are continuously wicked according to you and your god.


◄ Deuteronomy 20:17 ►
Parallel Verses
New International Version
Completely destroy them--the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites--as the LORD your God has commanded you.



Why wouldn't god do the dirty work?

In 1 Samuel 15:2-3, God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" God ordered similar things when the Israelites were invading the promised land (Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6; 20:16-18). Why would God have the Israelites exterminate an entire group of people, women and children included?



GOD commanded MOSES to KILL the captives, keep the virgins for slaves..


The Midianite War

The Lord spoke to Moses: 31:2 “Exact vengeance for the Israelites on the Midianites – after that you will be gathered to your people.â€

31:3 So Moses spoke to the people: “Arm men from among you for the war, to attack the Midianites and to execute the Lord’s vengeance on Midian.

31:4 You must send to the battle a thousand men from every tribe throughout all the tribes of Israel.â€

31:5 So a thousand from every tribe, twelve thousand armed for battle in all, were provided out of the thousands of Israel.

Campaign Against the Midianites

31:6 So Moses sent them to the war, one thousand from every tribe, with Phinehas son of Eleazar the priest, who was in charge of the holy articles and the signal trumpets.

31:7 They fought against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses, and they killed every male.

31:8 They killed the kings of Midian in addition to those slain – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – five Midianite kings. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword.

31:9 The Israelites took the women of Midian captives along with their little ones, and took all their herds, all their flocks, and all their goods as plunder.

31:10 They burned all their towns where they lived and all their encampments.

31:11 They took all the plunder and all the spoils, both people and animals.

31:12 They brought the captives and the spoils and the plunder to Moses, to Eleazar the priest, and to the Israelite community, to the camp on the plains of Moab, along the Jordan River across from Jericho.

31:13 Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the community went out to meet them outside the camp.





They were all--WICKED-- serving false gods, who is actually satan posing as every false god in existence.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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They were all--WICKED-- serving false gods, who is actually satan posing as every false god in existence.
Even children under 6 years of age?
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Even children under 6 years of age?



Satans #1 tool from the beginning---from generation to generation, from parent to child--false god worship and pagan practices off the table of demons handed down. Parents hold the responsibility for their children, before God.
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:01 AM
 
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Satans #1 tool from the beginning---from generation to generation, from parent to child--false god worship and pagan practices off the table of demons handed down. Parents hold the responsibility for their children, before God.

So who decides which gods are false and which gods are "real?"

So killing them while they are young is your god's plan of salvation? Whack em before they sin!


Strange that when I use hat same argument in reference yo a woman's choice, evangelicals are shocked, yet they are perfectly fine with heir god whacking innocent children to prevent the kids from growing up to be sinners.
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Old 08-27-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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So who decides which gods are false and which gods are "real?"

So killing them while they are young is your god's plan of salvation? Whack em before they sin!


Strange that when I use hat same argument in reference yo a woman's choice, evangelicals are shocked, yet they are perfectly fine with heir god whacking innocent children to prevent the kids from growing up to be sinners.



Everyone who knows the reality of history, knows 100% --YHWH-- a single being God is the only true living God. All the rest are false. There are some beings with godlike qualities in existence.


If God did it like that, to save all those young ones a judgement to the lake of fire--I applaud him--They will get an opportunity to gain life everlasting in Gods kingdom--the real life. God knows 100% what he is doing--He is always correct--Those that actually know him know its true. When billions are judged to the lake of fire, they will be wishing God spared them living their wicked lives.
YHWH and his son Love you--live now for entrance into his kingdom. Life everlasting-- its worth more than all the wealth and pleasures of this system combined.
Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHWH) Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added to you.( sustenance, covering, spirituality)
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