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Old 09-05-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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And the difference? Since there are NO originals, what we have is what is wrong.



Every trinity translation is filled with error. The New world translation fixed those errors, otherwise this couldn't be possible-Dan 12:4--nor this-John 4:22-24
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Old 09-05-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The New world translation fixed those errors, ...
But the religion itself has crippled families, divided friends, and is self-serving.
I'm dealing with the husband of my niece with five-children, while helping them.

He has abandoned them because of this cult-mentality that exists.
She attends Harvest Christian Fellowship, where Greg Laurie is the Pastor.

He studies with the Jehovah’s Witnesses with his mother.
And was treating his wife and children like they were scum.

Personally, I do not care what a person believes, it's how they treat others.
Lifting himself up, while he condemns his family doesn't set well with me.


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Old 09-05-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Every trinity translation is filled with error. The New world translation fixed those errors, otherwise this couldn't be possible-Dan 12:4--nor this-John 4:22-24
How does a translation "fix" errors when it does not have ORIGINALS from which to base the corrections?
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:09 PM
 
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But the religion itself has crippled families, divided friends, and is self-serving.
I'm dealing with the husband of my niece with five-children, while helping them.
He has abandoned them because of this cult-mentality that exists.
She attends Harvest Christian Fellowship, where Greg Laurie is the Pastor.
He studies with the Jehovah’s Witnesses with his mother.
And was treating his wife and children like they were scum.
Personally, I do not care what a person believes, it's how they treat others.
Lifting himself up, while he condemns his family doesn't set well with me.
Amen, Jer. This witness is typical of the evil that is fostered by JW's and other fundamentalist cults, including the evangelicals, who elevate themselves above even their loved ones in self-righteous false piety.
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Old 09-05-2016, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Every trinity translation is filled with error. The New world translation fixed those errors, otherwise this couldn't be possible-Dan 12:4--nor this-John 4:22-24
The Bible could appropriately be named, '' 3.''


It is 3 in the garden and each one of these 3 has 3. Then Noah had 3 sons and the whole world was called by their 3 names. Then Came Abraham and his two siblings, and the Abraham had Sarah and Hagar and these two mothers symbolize OUR mothers as we are born of flesh and spirit and both pertain the Jerusalem in looking how an individual is 2 sons, one born now, and one is hidden and he will be born later. These two sons are two nations that struggle within us and from that struggle a third is born, and he is the outcome. There is a law for both Ishmael and Isaac, a law of flesh, and a law of Liberty for the free son, but until the free son is set free, he is a hidden free man in the first born son.


We are shown as Esau and Jacob being a struggle of two nations that struggle with each other in one womb, and when Jacob is coming back to make peace with his brother Esau, he struggles with God in the process and then from this struggle, Jacob is transformed into a new person.


Then came Moses and his two siblings just as it was with Abraham and his two siblings where 3 siblings represent a whole.


We are then given a deign of a Temple in 3 sections and this temple represents what the kingdom of heaven is in it's 3 sections. There were 3 major feasts appointed to memorialize the 3 harvests of the land and the 3 harvests are so connected with the people and land that the harvest looked back on the Passover of God with it's barley harvest and the wheat harvest looked back to the giving of God's laws and the fruit harvest was associated with 40 years of being close to God in the wilderness.


The land itself is divided into 3 sections with two kingdoms and a city in between them.


Jesus showed us what the kingdom of heaven was when we saw a prophet, a priest, and a king standing on the 3 mounts of Hermon, and then we had to see Jesus being hung between two others. There are 3 names to each direction of the temple along with the names of 3 constellations that go with these names because there is not 12 tribes, there are 4 groups of 3 and there are not 12 disciples but 4 groups of 3 and when we see the two sons of thunder standing with Peter looking at the transfiguration, it is a mirror that those 3 disciples were looking at, the 3 of them looking at the 3 of them.


A prophet
A Priest
A king


This is what the kingdom of heaven is because this is what you are.


You are in a struggle of two minds but there you are in the middle and you have to the the priest of your own house, you have to decide and whatever you have done whether good or bad, you have decided by 3.


1 John 5


6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.




YOU ARE THOSE TWO WITNESSES.
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Old 09-05-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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But the religion itself has crippled families, divided friends, and is self-serving.
I'm dealing with the husband of my niece with five-children, while helping them.

He has abandoned them because of this cult-mentality that exists.
She attends Harvest Christian Fellowship, where Greg Laurie is the Pastor.

He studies with the Jehovah’s Witnesses with his mother.
And was treating his wife and children like they were scum.

Personally, I do not care what a person believes, it's how they treat others.
Lifting himself up, while he condemns his family doesn't set well with me.


If Gregg Laurie is the pastor she is in deep trouble. His hypocrisy is well known.

John MacArthur Withdraws Endorsement of Greg Laurie’s Harvest Crusade – Pulpit & Pen

IF the may treated his family as scum, he wasn't studying, he was using it as an excuse and violating the principles he would be taught.
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Old 09-05-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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Amen, Jer. This witness is typical of the evil that is fostered by JW's and other fundamentalist cults, including the evangelicals, who elevate themselves above even their loved ones in self-righteous false piety.
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IF the man treated his family as scum, he wasn't studying, he was using it as an excuse and violating the principles he would be taught.
I wonder why so many seem to get the shunning or disfellowshipping ideas???
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:09 PM
 
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If Gregg Laurie is the pastor she is in deep trouble. His hypocrisy is well known.

John MacArthur Withdraws Endorsement of Greg Laurie’s Harvest Crusade – Pulpit & Pen

IF the man treated his family as scum, he wasn't studying, he was using it as an excuse and violating the principles he would be taught.
Personally, I do not agree with either one, but that wasn't the point.
And, no, she is not in deep-trouble, love is first and foremost.

Or did you forget who her uncle is? He name is Jerwade.
She doesn't follow the teachings of men. She follows her heart.

And, yes, he uses it as an excuse to shun his wife and children.
While he spends the majority of his time being indoctrinated.

Unfortunately, he is too ignorant to know the difference.






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Old 09-06-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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But the religion itself has crippled families, divided friends, and is self-serving.
I'm dealing with the husband of my niece with five-children, while helping them.

He has abandoned them because of this cult-mentality that exists.
She attends Harvest Christian Fellowship, where Greg Laurie is the Pastor.

He studies with the Jehovah’s Witnesses with his mother.
And was treating his wife and children like they were scum.

Personally, I do not care what a person believes, it's how they treat others.
Lifting himself up, while he condemns his family doesn't set well with me.




Jesus taught ones family members will become their enemies( spiritually) if they followed him( correctly)




No, it was self thinking that did the things you said. Every true follower does this-Matt 16:24
What an individual does has nothing to do with the JW religion. Not one is taught to do such things. But I do understand that it can be very hard knowing the ones you love are being mislead.We are taught to Love. Even love our enemies. Not all that try succeed. Satans #1 job--attack Jesus' seed relentlessly. No mortal can beat satan unless they accomplish Matt 16:24.
I know brothers who are JW,s and their family' do not attend and they don't treat their loved ones like that. He( husband of niece) alone is in error. Everyone on earth has one of these--Jeremiah 17:9-- a desperate and treacherous heart--Matt 16:24--One must disown themselves to follow Jesus--Few can.
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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The Bible could appropriately be named, '' 3.''


It is 3 in the garden and each one of these 3 has 3. Then Noah had 3 sons and the whole world was called by their 3 names. Then Came Abraham and his two siblings, and the Abraham had Sarah and Hagar and these two mothers symbolize OUR mothers as we are born of flesh and spirit and both pertain the Jerusalem in looking how an individual is 2 sons, one born now, and one is hidden and he will be born later. These two sons are two nations that struggle within us and from that struggle a third is born, and he is the outcome. There is a law for both Ishmael and Isaac, a law of flesh, and a law of Liberty for the free son, but until the free son is set free, he is a hidden free man in the first born son.


We are shown as Esau and Jacob being a struggle of two nations that struggle with each other in one womb, and when Jacob is coming back to make peace with his brother Esau, he struggles with God in the process and then from this struggle, Jacob is transformed into a new person.


Then came Moses and his two siblings just as it was with Abraham and his two siblings where 3 siblings represent a whole.


We are then given a deign of a Temple in 3 sections and this temple represents what the kingdom of heaven is in it's 3 sections. There were 3 major feasts appointed to memorialize the 3 harvests of the land and the 3 harvests are so connected with the people and land that the harvest looked back on the Passover of God with it's barley harvest and the wheat harvest looked back to the giving of God's laws and the fruit harvest was associated with 40 years of being close to God in the wilderness.


The land itself is divided into 3 sections with two kingdoms and a city in between them.


Jesus showed us what the kingdom of heaven was when we saw a prophet, a priest, and a king standing on the 3 mounts of Hermon, and then we had to see Jesus being hung between two others. There are 3 names to each direction of the temple along with the names of 3 constellations that go with these names because there is not 12 tribes, there are 4 groups of 3 and there are not 12 disciples but 4 groups of 3 and when we see the two sons of thunder standing with Peter looking at the transfiguration, it is a mirror that those 3 disciples were looking at, the 3 of them looking at the 3 of them.


A prophet
A Priest
A king


This is what the kingdom of heaven is because this is what you are.


You are in a struggle of two minds but there you are in the middle and you have to the the priest of your own house, you have to decide and whatever you have done whether good or bad, you have decided by 3.


1 John 5


6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.




YOU ARE THOSE TWO WITNESSES.



Actually a true follower disowns self to follow Jesus-Matt 16:24-- Few can.
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