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Wow...then based on what you've just written (which I might be wrong because I'm not even sure what you wrote was coherent), you've gone from a liberal to an ultra conservative and ultra judgmental nut. I moved from very conservative Christian to the middle because of people like you. You don't have monopoly on the Holy Spirit no matter how much Christianese you use in your posts. I don't consider the liberal side to be perfect by a long shot, but I'm not about to make claims about one side or the other all being Godless heathens!
There is a vast difference between being liberal as in generous and Liberal as allowing anything that someone wants to do or feels good, etc. Liberalism today usually means rejecting very direct statements in scripture and approving everything, good or bad, in the name of love. Oops love also means avoiding wrong and not trying to make Bad into good.
Political, Social and Biblical Liberalism are different things.
But he did not demand funds from his followers, etc, they were voluntary contributions. No if we can acquire resources to share as he did, Miraculously, then I would share in abundance. Currently I have to be wise in what I share and have available to share and to whom I share it with.
He did say go and sell your possessions and give to the poor and follow me..
How on earth do liberal Christians believe that the Christian Left is dying or in decline?
Because significant number of those holding pro gay marriage beliefs and embracing environmentalism are not liberal Christians. Rather, they are secular / agnostics.
At the end of the day, the Christian left has been declining in numbers for generations and their direct influence in society has also been waning.
The Episcopelian (sp) church has been on demographic life support for the last generation and the prognosis is getting worse. That does not mean that there are no individual success stories though.
What does Christianity have to offer to liberal beliefs? Even 10 years ago, gay marriage was an unpopular position, now more than half agree with it now. Over the past one or two decades, environmental regulations have been implemented that the left considers absolutely necessary. How on earth do liberal Christians believe that the Christian Left is dying or in decline?
And even though I don't really care about gay marriage or other types of these issues, I don't like seeing liberal Christians cherry picking only the "feel-good" believers, and invoking pacifism or other themes as justification for their Christianity. That's not how Christianity works. Yet, my sentiment is very controversial lately. I'm going all out here, but: if the bible doesn't say homosexuality is a sin, why do half of Christians in the US support laws that either don't even recognize it or just flat out oppose it? How could you honestly be a Christian and even support laws silencing the speech based on being offensive, when the speaker is Christian themselves?
As far as I know, there is nothing I heard about Christianity anecdotally that can support liberalism. Also, don't the laws that are perceived to discriminate against other groups apply to all denominations?
Maybe because the right wing apostate church is spreading like wildfire?.
yeah they are. If they keep pushing stuff like dude died, woke up, and flew away as literal ... we rational in the middle have to leave. the people that judge claims on how well they match observations, usually are "liberal" liberal and "liberal" conservative".
The more "conservative" the liberal or
the more "conservative" the conservative
the more rational people move away.
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You don't have monopoly on the Holy Spirit no matter how much Christianese you use in your posts. I don't consider the liberal side to be perfect by a long shot, but I'm not about to make claims about one side or the other all being Godless heathens!
