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Likewise, there are things that women can't do because they are not equipped to do them, not because men decided they couldn't do them.
If you are referring to anything besides having babies, having periods, breast feeding, or maybe bench pressing certain excessive amounts of weight (which some women can do anyways) you're just digging yourself into a hole.
Try again, Vizio, it IS there. The difference is between "equipped" (biologically) and "decided." When there have to be RULES made to keep one or the other from performing a function it becomes "unequal."
Ah, I see this was covered well by Zthatzmanz and you fall back on the "God decided, not men" argument that is precisely what the OP is about and it is a LIE.
This is the Christianity forum. If you don't like what God has said in his Word, there isn't much I can do for you. Women are not lesser beings, they are not inferior. But there are prerequisites to holding an office as defined in Scripture.
This is the Christianity forum. If you don't like what God has said in his Word, there isn't much I can do for you. Women are not lesser beings, they are not inferior. But there are prerequisites to holding an office as defined in Scripture.
BUT NONE WERE SPOKEN BY GOD...they were all created by MEN
No, we do not have to be the same to be equal. That's my point. But God has determined certain requirements to do certain things. It wasn't defined by some random dude that felt threatened by women.
But we are ALL EQUAL....has nothing to do with SAME.
If someone has the opportunity to be a CEO, everyone should have that same opportunity and not denied based on gender, race or any other man made concept.
Completely irrelevant. This has NOTHING to do with the church. You should try to stay on topic.
The topic is EQUALITY....in the church and in the WORLD...and how evangelicals attempt to restrict the opportunities for WOMEN based on religion (christain sharia law)
Gotta keep up the pace if you want to sit at the big table
Likewise, there are things that women can't do because they are not equipped to do them, not because men decided they couldn't do them.
STILL waiting for an explanation of how "equal" means "the same".
As I pointed out in a previous post "different" does not mean inferior nor not equal. They keep changing the words to imply inequality before God and man.
There is a reason why the first believers with any authority were ... men. Then the heads of all the tribes of Israel were ... men, and God only used ... men as priests and Jesus only chose men as the 12 apostles. It has to do with position not equality, etc. Nothing to do with equality, just position as directed by God and His son. Those who don't like it are elevating themselves to an equality and in fact a superior position to God. Wait, that is what Satan did and had Eve do. People are still listening to him.
This is the Christianity forum. If you don't like what God has said in his Word, there isn't much I can do for you. Women are not lesser beings, they are not inferior. But there are prerequisites to holding an office as defined in Scripture.
Correct, prerequisites do not imply inequality. It has nothing to do with being a lesser being, just that people do not want to follow God's direction. Fine do as Adam and Eve did.
If they do not believe in the Bible, OK, then quit quoting it to support a position or to claim knowledge of Jesus, since as many say (and they are wrong) there is no historical knowledge of Jesus outside the Bible. So the Jesus they know is ...... non existent.
We see the usual fundie men defending the indefensible and vainly trying to mask their insecurities by hiding them behind a book.
Cowardly, weak, sad little man-children think standing on an old book and marginalizing women will make them appear big and manly.
It doesn't.
Well, that's it exactly, isn't it? The men of biblical times saw women as inferior to them and surely Paul had to know that few men (perhaps not even himself) were equipped to accept any woman leading them in any way. If he wanted to see men join the Church, he had to make sure they did not feel their sense of control and superiority over women was being threatened. That's too scary for some men.
Yeah, it's not that women are not equipped for leadership roles in the Church. It's that some men are ill equipped to handle it.
The topic is EQUALITY....in the church and in the WORLD...and how evangelicals attempt to restrict the opportunities for WOMEN based on religion (christain sharia law)
Gotta keep up the pace if you want to sit at the big table
And you have yet to prove that point. You are making assertions about what we believe, and what our motivations are, but at the most basic level, it's you whining about your OPINION of what we believe is. Get over the idea that we are not all like you. It IS possible to honestly want to follow God and do what he says.
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