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Old 10-11-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Those with God's spirit know there is no problem as you present it. Those without it, think it means the Bible is not God's word. Jesus had no problem with using it in his day, a good example for us.

 
Old 10-11-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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Those with God's spirit know there is no problem as you present it. Those without it, think it means the Bible is not God's word. Jesus had no problem with using it in his day, a good example for us.
Those with God's Holy Spirit of agape love know there is a problem and the Bible is NOT God's word, Jesus IS! Those without His Holy Spirit, think the Bible is God's word. The Bible did not exist for Jesus to use. What scrolls and scripture did exist were never called God's word.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 09:49 PM
 
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Those with God's Holy Spirit of agape love know there is a problem and the Bible is NOT God's word, Jesus IS! Those without His Holy Spirit, think the Bible is God's word. The Bible did not exist for Jesus to use. What scrolls and scripture did exist were never called God's word.
My mother can bake bread like like. No other.
So much so that she left me with memories.

Here we are talking about the kitchen.

And all I can think about is how theses beautifull woman knew how to take care of the family.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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You claim authority for the Bible, and act as though we are accepting that preposterous idea BY quoting from the Bible. You have been told that the scriptures ONLY have value when they are confirmed by the Spirit.

Unless you can understand this, you will keep making the SAME inane comment and I will keep calling you on it. You are not that dumb.
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Once again that has NOTHING to do with the question of assigning authority. What is so hard?
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You're not making any sense. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
You are SO bought into the idea of the AUTHORITY of the BIBLE that you can't even see what it means if you are WRONG about that idea.

The Bible has NO authority in itself. ALL authority is in the Guide Jesus promised. When you can understand that concept, THEN we can talk about contradictions and/or why I can use the Bible as the best expression of a point (besides being the only thing to which YOU will pay attention) without citing it AS AUTHORITY.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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God's Word states that a prerequisite for being a pastor, elder, or deacon is to be a man......
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JUST maybe there is something you are not understanding correctly, Vizio:
Romans 16:1"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae."
I have not seen your response to this, Vizio.
 
Old 10-12-2016, 04:28 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Thank you z, for posting this. It's good to know that someone is discussing this here, while I've been off holding other Christians accountable for this elsewhere.
It is a huge responsibility to be sure..

I HAVE MISSED YOU! I am encouraged to see you are still "fighting" the good fight..

LOVE--MERCY--JUSTICE will prevail over HATE--BIGOTRY--OPPRESSION...
 
Old 10-12-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Those with God's Holy Spirit of agape love know there is a problem and the Bible is NOT God's word, Jesus IS! Those without His Holy Spirit, think the Bible is God's word. The Bible did not exist for Jesus to use. What scrolls and scripture did exist were never called God's word.
So are you claiming that if someone believes the Bible is inerrant, they do not and can not have the Holy Spirit indwelling them?
 
Old 10-12-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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You are SO bought into the idea of the AUTHORITY of the BIBLE that you can't even see what it means if you are WRONG about that idea.

The Bible has NO authority in itself. ALL authority is in the Guide Jesus promised. When you can understand that concept, THEN we can talk about contradictions and/or why I can use the Bible as the best expression of a point (besides being the only thing to which YOU will pay attention) without citing it AS AUTHORITY.
Says who?
 
Old 10-12-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Those with God's Holy Spirit of agape love know there is a problem and the Bible is NOT God's word, Jesus IS! Those without His Holy Spirit, think the Bible is God's word. The Bible did not exist for Jesus to use. What scrolls and scripture did exist were never called God's word.
Mystic, i think this needs help wadr, and not only @ "Those without..."
I appreciate you search the Scriptures for Word of Me, when here I am in front of you as much as the next guy, but Christ referred to the Bible then extant quite a bit, and i think @ "What scrolls..." you are gonna be hard-pressed as well. They were not considered God's Word?
 
Old 10-12-2016, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So are you claiming that if someone believes the Bible is inerrant, they do not and can not have the Holy Spirit indwelling them?
If the Holy Spirit epitomizes insight, understanding and recognition of truth, you are correct.

One cannot believe in an inerrant bible and claim possession of those attributes.
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