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Old 10-25-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Actually, the only viable/honest answer is: we don't know, for now. The bible provides zero evidence for our existence.
I said nothing about the Bible, just a creator (of some sort). Stop putting words in my mouth.

Everything we observe has a cause. Why would the universe be any different? A creator is logical.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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Science cannot prove otherwise.
That does not validate your assertion.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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I said nothing about the Bible, just a creator (of some sort). Stop putting words in my mouth.

Everything we observe has a cause. Why would the universe be any different? A creator is logical.
That's an unfounded assertion.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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That's an unfounded assertion.
No, it is not. You can't name one thing without a cause.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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No, it is not. You can't name one thing without a cause.
As big and lifeless as the universe appears, it makes no sense that it was created by any ID. We have no evidence to believe otherwise. And, if it was, the creator is indifferent to us.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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lol. but you run, as fast as you can, from any evidence that anyone shows you, maat.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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As big and lifeless as the universe appears, it makes no sense that it was created by any ID. We have no evidence to believe otherwise. And, if it was, the creator is indifferent to us.
Lifeless? Are you kidding? The universe is constantly changing and expanding.

What makes no sense is that everything has a cause, except the universe.
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:38 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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That's an unfounded assertion.
i mean, please. we've seen back to 1/10th of a second after the Big Bang, everything just energy, to hydrogen, still virtually nothing, and all you have is "that's an unfounded assertion," lol. Tbh, i don't think this stuff much matters one way or another, but you guys are going to reap what you sow, regardless, and even if you hate God, God does not hate you, and you are going to be condemned by your own lips.

You got freaky-spiritual science nerds out there discovering that when you put the Phi spiral inside a tetrahedron and then slowly revolve it around a pivot axis, and shine a light from behind the Phi spiral, all of the Hebrew characters will show up as the shadows on the inside face of the tetrahedron, but you got issues with the validity of the Bible. Ok.
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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the fact that you feel compelled to denigrate God speaks volumes, TD.
I don't denigrate God.

I denigrate the impersonator(s) in the bible.
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:04 PM
 
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Except your little godling.
...is denigrating your creator, TD. Even if you choose to not believe you were created, somehow, it is gratuitous, and a slur to others, to, what, 97% of all humans. So, who are these "impersonator(s) in the bible" you are fantasizing about--from, you know, your tiny mindling--just so i have some clue? ty
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