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You're very welcome although I don't remember it but glad it was helpful
Anyhow to your side question-there will just be question after question from you until you find a bible based church who can provide you a Christian (disciple of Lord Jesus Christ) to witness to you the plan of salvation.
Faith comes by hearing so this forum isn't the correct venue to really help but I'll attempt it
Jesus was known as the second Adam. Only because he shared as being perfect in the flesh (sinless), during the short time he was on earth. The WORD became FLESH,(John 1:14) and flesh without a sin nature (1John:3:5 yet without compromising his Deity. Jesus always was, he existed in heaven with GOD before he was birthed of the virgin mary. Just as GOD always was, JESUS always was as part of the Godhead. All throughout the bible this is unmistakable. Meaning you cannot read it an interpret anything different (unless you have reading or learning disabilities of course). The #1 tactic of Cults, non christian religions, is changing Lord Jesus' diet
Every other being was CREATED
Lord Jesus came down from heaven to atone for our sins on the cross. We were bought for a price. Prior there were animal sacrifices which atoned for individual sins, including a spotless lamb (yes Jesus is also called the spotless lamb of God-1Peter 1:18-20) and goats. But it never saved people from being damned for their sins. All of their sins were nailed to the cross with Christ, and when he rose again, all sins for those who belong to him, were forgiven. Hence our new birth. For Christians, we died with Christ on that cross and rose with him as a new creation. A new birth,
Jesus had to identify with whatever bloodline he was birthed into as an infant. Here is his family tree https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...+1&version=MSG - Moses is similar in that respect though Moses was just a man (a created being) he identified most of his life with a different bloodline he understood he was birthed into
A foundational understanding Christianity is important because it offers the means to salvation. Try to find a bible based church which teaches the basic principals regarding Christians. Acts 11 is a good read to start on your own. To understand how Diciples of Lord Jesus became known as Christians.
Your side-note questions seem easily answered by just googling but I wanted to get you going on the basic foundation for your own salvation. A forum isn't the way to salvation. You need to find a bible based church and get paired up with a Christian A.K.A Disciple of Lord Jesus Christ so you can be saved.
I can't help much beyond what I've posted except to direct you to find a bible based Christian Church. You need a Disciple of Christ to help teach you the teachings of Lord Jesus and plan of salvation. Feel free to send me a message with your town and state and I'll assist you with locating a good bible based church. I wish you the best of luck
*whew* sorry for getting sidetracked here. Now back to the OP!!!
There isn't anything there that I don't already know...
Salvation is accomplished through HaShem by repentance and following Torah...Simple as that...HaShem said that no person may die for the sins of another, that each one dies for their own sins, so If you believe what HaShem has said then Jesus did not die for your sins...HaShem also said that He abhors human sacrifice, Jesus was a human being and if he was sacrificed for the sins of the world then that contradicts what HaShem has stated...So, he could not have been a sacrifice for the sins of others according to HaShem...Since HaShem abhors human sacrifice, the sacrifice that you claim that Jesus made would not have been accepted by HaShem because it was, in fact, a human sacrifice and it would not have been accepted on the grounds that no one may pay for the sins of another, so it fails on both counts...
Eternal Hell
And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)
Notice that it is those that worship the beast, but what about your average sinner?...This verse says nothing about them...
People are assigned an immortal body at death, hence why the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Never to be quenched because the assigned eternal body isn't like our fleshly body which would normally be burned up and the fire eventually goes out. Sort of like how the worm "does not die" and the fire "is not quenched"
Where does it state that people are assigned an immortal body upon their death?...
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This is also why the Rich man wanted Lazarus, who floated about in Abrahams bosom, to warm his family about this place of hellfire while he begged for some water to cool his tongue. He was told that his family wouldn't believe it anyhow, even if someone arose from the dead! And of all of the good things The Rich man got on earth (and horded, causing Lazarus to starve to death) and now Lazarus n turn, eternally is experiencing the good things like being eternally comforted- Luke 16:19-31
Abraham's Bosom is a metaphor indicating a position of honor...
Their is nothing in that parable that indicates that the Rich Man was deserving of Hell, just as there is nothing in that parable that indicates that Lazarus was deserving of heaven...
And where does it state that Lazarus died of starvation because the Rich Man didn't give him any food?...
And why did the poor man have a name but the Rich Man didn't?...
Appreciate all the candid answers.......very interesting.....
Answering my own question: I richly deserved hell if judged on my own merits.....all are fallen and I'm part of the all.....I'm destined to be in heaven only through the grace and mercy of Jesus who loved me enough to die and pay for my sins when I believed not just IN Him, but believed He was dead and buried and rose to new life on the third day. A free gift from the almighty CREATOR of the universe...........
I do not see you there.
"No one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born from above. "
You have not been born from above.
"The one who comes from above is above all. Whoever belongs to the world thinks like the world and speaks in a worldly way. The one who comes from heaven testifies to what he has seen and heard but no one believes him, if anyone does believe they render the truth of God."
The hell(unbiblical), that most Christians believe in, no one deserves to go to, not even Hitler.
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although I don't remember it but glad it was helpful
