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This is the point I have been trying to make: it really is not possible to make a systematic theology about forms of worship which takes the whole Bible as "THE WORD OF GOD" when parts of it are really NOT practiced physically but others are considered a requirement.
"Worship" is and should be an expression of devotion which remains between the individual and God, but the "practice of His presence" in our lives is where the rubber meets the road.
I'm afraid the focus here has become whether one should dictate his perceptions of forms of worship as "required by God."
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Originally Posted by pcamps
I think so.
But this is what most of us are conditioned to think that worshipping God is, that it must conform to a religious model ..... denominational Christianity, Catholicism, Islam etc
What you are seeing is how it actually is in society so it is no wonder that you see the diversity of opinions here.
There is GOD - and then there is man making up gods out of his imagination
This is the point I have been trying to make: it really is not possible to make a systematic theology about forms of worship which takes the whole Bible as "THE WORD OF GOD" when parts of it are really NOT practiced physically but others are considered a requirement. "Worship" is and should be an expression of devotion which remains between the individual and God, but the "practice of His presence" in our lives is where the rubber meets the road. I'm afraid the focus here has become whether one should dictate his perceptions of forms of worship as "required by God."
The problem, nate, is that people think worship is FOR God to please Him, praise Him, glorify Him, etc. etc. Nothing we do can do any of those things FOR God. Worship is as you say individual and it is FOR us, NOT God. The state of mind that we are in when we seek to express love for God and each other and commune with God benefits us and those around us, period.
The problem, nate, is that people think worship is FOR God to please Him, praise Him, glorify Him, etc. etc. Nothing we do can do any of those things FOR God. Worship is as you say individual and it is FOR us, NOT God. The state of mind that we are in when we seek to express love for God and each other and commune with God benefits us and those around us, period.
The problem, nate, is that people think worship is FOR God to please Him, praise Him, glorify Him, etc. etc. Nothing we do can do any of those things FOR God. Worship is as you say individual and it is FOR us, NOT God. The state of mind that we are in when we seek to express love for God and each other and commune with God benefits us and those around us, period.
I could never understand how a god so needy that it required worship was worthy of the capital G.
It was one of my first realizations that the OT god was totally bogus.
Basic to our communication gap. You really think that it was God who set up that "worship system" in spite of the quotations from some seriously thoughtful prophets that indicate otherwise....Jeremiah, Isaiah, Micah. It really is the root of Reform Judaism and represents the OTHER current in Jewish thought. Tradition is another thing altogether.
The problem, nate, is that people think worship is FOR God to please Him, praise Him, glorify Him, etc. etc. Nothing we do can do any of those things FOR God. Worship is as you say individual and it is FOR us, NOT God. The state of mind that we are in when we seek to express love for God and each other and commune with God benefits us and those around us, period.
I agree with this. I've tweeted it myself - praise is getting in flow with who you are.
What can praise do for someone who is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient? Absolutely nothing. They don't need anything, ....but in response to the affirmation of them they minister to you what you need. The key with it, that makes it work, is that it is not directed at self, but at Another, the Greatest.
I don't go around thinking how wonderful I am, ...and nor does the Father. I just sit at the piano when inspired and start singing praise to Father or Jesus - the old songs, the new songs, anything, and the anointing still works, even though I've changed my view of what the ultimate reason and purpose of praise is for. To draw us closer to Him. I'm still on the fence on singing about the blood of Jesus - I tried it a few months ago "oh the blood of Jesus, ...It washes white as snow" and I couldn't really decide whether there was an anointing on it, for me, anymore. Though that is how the anointing works - highlighting exactly what is needed for each one.
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If that were the case would I not have run screaming from this board a long time ago? I just don't see the point when it's never reciprocated and so little comes of it, save more boasting accusations, or I'm lying about it, ect. The same reason I won't share my testimony on here. Peace
So you cannot answer the question then ?. If your purpose is to teach obedience, let's hear your example of it in your day to day life.
Basic to our communication gap. You really think that it was God who set up that "worship system" in spite of the quotations from some seriously thoughtful prophets that indicate otherwise....Jeremiah, Isaiah, Micah. It really is the root of Reform Judaism and represents the OTHER current in Jewish thought. Tradition is another thing altogether.
No, scary sad to me that someone who professes Christ doesn't think that G-d requires worship. Peace
So you cannot answer the question then ?. If your purpose is to teach obedience, let's hear your example of it in your day to day life.
Here's the crux of it: as many as are led by the Spirit of G-d are the sons of G-d. And glory to G-d, His word always bear witness to whatever He speaks, so I don't have do the whole, "Is it me or is it Memorex?" thing.........and then decide with a unanimous vote of one, that it was it Him. Peace
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