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To "believe-in" means you believe something exists or it doesn’t (i.e., Jesus, demons, ghosts)
1) to have confidence in the existence, or reliability of – something.
2) to have confidence or faith in – something.
3) give credence to, or a positive assertion that something is true.
In other words, you "believe-in Jesus" as being the Son of God (for others, God himself).
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Originally Posted by Mike555
That's right. To believe in Jesus is to be understood as believing that He is who He claimed to be and that He died for your sins.
This is my Son in whom I am well pleased, listen to him.
I don't see this as a mandatory requirement or else?
And, from where I sit, demons and ghosts do not exist.
Neither, did Jesus claim that he, himself, was GOD.
Although, that's your preference or what you "believe-in."
The bolded simply is not true. In the following three examples Jesus is speaking with reference to Himself and of the necessity of believing in Him.
John 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in (εἰς) Him whom He has sent."
John 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in (εἰς) Me will never thirst.
John 6:40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believesin (εἰς) Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day."
In each of the three verses the Greek word is εἰς and is translated into English as 'in.' This is an accurate translation because the word εἰς has the sense of movement into something and can be translated as 'in,' 'into,' 'to,' 'toward,' 'on,' 'for,'
In his intermediate Greek Grammar, 'Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics', p. 369, Dan Wallace lists the basic uses of the word εἰς.
εἰς
A. Basic Uses (with the Accusative only)
1. Spatial: into, toward, in
2. Temporal: for, throughout
3. Purpose: for, in order to, to
4. Result: so that, with the result that
5. Reference/ Respect: with respect to, with reference to 6. Advantage: for 7. Disadvantage: against 8. In the place of ἐν (with its various nuances)
And so, again, it is simply incorrect to state that the Scriptures do not say 'believe in Me.'
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
To "believe-in" means you believe something exists or it doesn’t (i.e., Jesus, demons, ghosts)
1) to have confidence in the existence, or reliability of – something.
2) to have confidence or faith in – something.
3) give credence to, or a positive assertion that something is true.
In other words, you "believe-in Jesus" as being the Son of God (for others, God himself).
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Originally Posted by Mike555
That's right. To believe in Jesus is to be understood as believing that He is who He claimed to be and that He died for your sins.
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Originally Posted by pcamps
Not at all, it is to believe what he says. Whoever hears these sayings of mine and does them(we do them because we believe them) he is the wise man.
It means to believe ALL that He said concerning Himself, including the fact that those who believe in Him have eternal life. Here is something Jesus said.
John 8:24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."
You can't pick and choose what you want to believe concerning what He said and ignore the rest.
Curious, but not surprising, that many have a firm belief in the Jesus of the Bible, but when a person (Yogananda was not the only one) has a vision of the living Jesus, that is thought to be not credible.
Does a Living Jesus now mean anything, and if so, what?
This is my Son in whom I am well pleased, listen to him.
I don't see this as a mandatory requirement or else?
And, from where I sit, demons and ghosts do not exist.
Neither, did Jesus claim that he, himself, was GOD.
Although, that's your preference or what you "believe-in."
You DONT' listen to what He said. And yes, Jesus did claim to be God. And the apostles also said that Jesus was God. But you don't listen to them either.
It means to believe ALL that He said concerning Himself, including the fact that those who believe in Him have eternal life. Here is something Jesus said.
John 8:24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."
You can't pick and choose what you want to believe concerning what He said and ignore the rest.
It means to listen to what he says about the way we should conduct our lives. And that which is eternal pertains only to GOD, you haven't always existed.
It means to listen to what he says about the way we should conduct our lives. And that which is eternal pertains only him, you haven't always existed.
As I showed in post #58, it means a lot more than that. It means to believe what He said about Himself. And if you don't believe that He died for your sins, then you are spiritually dead and under judgment.
And you don't believe that Jesus is God (post #72) so how can you turn around and say that He is eternal?
It means to believe ALL that He said concerning Himself, including the fact that those who believe in Him have eternal life. Here is something Jesus said.
John 8:24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."
You can't pick and choose what you want to believe concerning what He said and ignore the rest.
Why call me Lord(who I AM) when you do not do what I say ?. You will die in your sin believing you have to believe who he is, you do understand demons recognized who he is?.
Why call me Lord(who I AM) when you do not do what I say ?. You will die in your sin believing you have to believe who he is, you do understand demons recognized who he is?.
You are dead already.
And you understand nothing. Further, you disregard what Jesus Himself said. And to believe in Christ means not merely to believe that He is who He claimed to be, but that He died for your sins and that He rose again and therefore place your trust in Him for eternal life. But Jesus didn't die for the fallen angels or for the demons. They understand that Jesus is God and that He will judge them.
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And that which is eternal pertains only to GOD, you haven't always existed.
