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Old 09-20-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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Fundamentalists don't listen, they preach at you, which amounts to nothing but "lip service."
lol.


Wow. just.......wow.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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You are dead already.

And you understand nothing. Further, you disregard what Jesus Himself said. And to believe in Christ means not merely to believe that He is who He claimed to be, but that He died for your sins and that He rose again and therefore place your trust in Him for eternal life. But Jesus didn't die for the fallen angels or for the demons. They understand that Jesus is God and that He will judge them.
Amen.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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You are dead already.

And you understand nothing. To believe in Christ means not merely to believe that He is who He claimed to be, but that He died for your sins and that He rose again. But Jesus didn't die for the fallen angels or for the demons. They understand that Jesus is God and that He will judge them.


The devil and demons believe and KNOW WHO HE IS. Like I said you will die in your sin believing you have to believe in him the way you would have us believe.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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The devil and demons believe and KNOW WHO HE IS. Like I said you will die in your sin believing you have to believe in him the way you would have us believe.
You already said that and I already addressed it in post #80. And now you've taken up enough of my time.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:39 PM
 
Location: New England
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I wonder what he thinks of John 14:6.
That Jesus Christ is the way. Notice there is no "only" in John 14:6, that is because he was speaking that he was what he taught.

Acts 9:2
And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of THIS WAY, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

What WAY do you think Saul was referring too ?. Exactly, the way of Jesus
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:43 PM
 
Location: New England
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You already said that and I already addressed it in post #80. And now you've taken up enough of my time.
And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell. ha ha, that was a quick edit.

You have not addressed it, you have denied it with what you were taught it means when you first believed and are simply not open to any other view of it.

Ps, I never took up your time, you chose to respond to my posts because you did not like what I said and thought it your duty to react to it. Don't be an angry man, it's bad for your health.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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It means to listen to what he says about the way we should conduct our lives.
And that which is eternal pertains only to him, you haven't always existed.
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As I showed in post #58, it means a lot more than that. It means to believe what He said about Himself. And if you don't believe that He died for your sins, then you are spiritually dead and under judgment.

And you don't believe that Jesus is God (post #72) so how can you turn around and say that He is eternal?
It was a reference to GOD, not Jesus, and he, Jesus died by the hands of ungodly men "because of" their sin. It is quite apparent that you and others crucify him daily with your belief systems, instead of taking any responsibility for your own thoughts, deeds and actions. However, you are not going to be able to use him as your personal scapegoat, while condemning others to a non-existent eternal hellhole merely because you believe-in it.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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...Jesus didn't die for the fallen angels or for the demons.
Because they do not exist.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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That Jesus Christ is the way. Notice there is no "only" in John 14:6, that is because he was speaking that he was what he taught.

Acts 9:2
And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of THIS WAY, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

What WAY do you think Saul was referring too ?. Exactly, the way of Jesus
It was speaking of those that were believers in Christ. Saul was looking for Christians. He wasn't just looking for people that loved. He was looking for people that taught that Jesus is the Messiah.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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It was a reference to GOD, not Jesus, and he, Jesus died by the hands of ungodly men "because of" their sin. It is quite apparent that you and others crucify him daily with your belief systems, instead of taking any responsibility for your own thoughts, deeds and actions. However, you are not going to be able to use him as your personal scapegoat, while condemning others to a non-existent eternal hellhole merely because you believe-in it.
Jesus was crucified once for our sins (Hebrews 10:10,12). He bore our sins in His own body as clearly stated in 1 Peter 2:24.
1 Peter 2:24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
He died FOR our sins having given His life a ransom for many.
Mark 10:45 "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for (ἀντὶ) many."
The Greek word translated as 'for' is ἀντὶ and it has the meaning of substitution. It means 'in place of,' 'instead of,' 'for.'

For example, ἀντὶ is used in Matthew 2:22 regarding Archelaus ruling IN PLACE OF his father.
Matthew 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus was reigning over Judea in place of (ἀντὶ) his father Herod, he was afraid to go there. Then after being warned by God in a dream, he left for the regions of Galilee,
Jesus gave His life a ransom FOR (ἀντὶ) many having died as our substitute. This is the clear teaching of the Scriptures. You choose not to believe the Scriptures. You choose not to believe the New Testament writers. But regardless of your unbelief, Jesus did bear our sins in His own body and He paid the penalty for our sins, having died as our substitute.
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