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Old 08-03-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
As Jesus had said, there were two laws.

There was Moses' (singular) and God's law.

The 10 Commandments supercede Moses' laws.

If Noah sacrificed different from Abel who sacrificed fire, not the animal, then what injustices.

Also, again, another uncomplimentary reminder that God must change his mind about what he wants.

He must be a fickle God, even in the event that it would be sweet-smelling if they were blood sacrifices.

Adam and Eve were given garments to wear, God cannot contradict himself, as that math of man goes.

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"Testament of Levi": Levi 1:23~ "Offering to the Lord is a sweet-smelling savour, a reasonable and a bloodless offering".

Leviticus 24:

18 And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.beast for…: Heb. life for life

19 And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;

20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

21 And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.

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But we are under grace and truth. But that does not let one get away with murder, or taking an eye out, or hurting their neighbor.

If righteous atonement never happens to the one who is offended, God will enter; there can never be a law of life is giving to one but takes life away from another.

This is as far as humanity goes, so what will gather.


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The Book of Hebrews is written to those who believed blood sacrifice was something, while it states that the blood sacrifice of animals was useless. (Hebrews 7:18)

Hebrews 10:

5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me;

6
with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased.

7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’ ”

8
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law.
Thankyou for posting from Hebrews.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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Thankyou for posting from Hebrews.
Well, yes, it's thank you that I thought of The Book of the Hebrews.

There was the Melchizidek priesthood order and there were the Levites.

One is where the Lord Yeshua Christ came from the others were from Moses.

That is the way the scripture states it right there in the 7th chapter of Hebrews.

That Moses never spoke of the Melchizedek priesthood order but one of his altars.

That God is the one who sent that mixed-multitude out of Egypt for it came to wares.

As much of stolen property and theft they could first do that Moses is the one who casts.

Breaking up the Egyptian Melchizedek order defacing the hieroglyphs that speak of Genesis.

A debauched group had taken over the land of Egypt but praised as being part of those saviors.

How the Akhenaten Revolution led the way to the Vatican priesthood taking over the governments.

There was Diocletian and an assortment of Roman emperors who called themselves best to be stewards.

There was Constantine with 'this sign "+" we do conquer' and so they did and it has been ever since papyrus.

The Coptic church was put under its manuscripts destroyed they wanted God shut out as they were emperors.

To saddle a horse is a sad thing if it is being forced into battle to have to fight the mercies of none have only faces.

Genesis 14 the land of the Sphinx knows who Christ was received him as Lord and Savior in that Valley of the Kings.


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Old 08-03-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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Okay, because you talked about guilt, not thankfulness. But, I agree, there is life in gratitude.
there is no line between thankful and guilty when it comes to indebtedness to life and what it costs to live in a fallen world. you made up that line , it doesn't exist.
because you are varying degrees spoiled , disconnected oblivious to what your life and what your sins cost this earth and your neighbors and even God in the physical and spiritual , And then unthankful about that and allow yourself to think you are guiltless because you have chosen to be oblivious to your indebtedness .
But someday he promises all will see as he sees and as he is ... that means you will see everything he sees that owns you because you are indebted to many things and exactly what he wanted to save you from. and that means you won't be able to chose oblivious anymore.
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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there is no line between thankful and guilty when it comes to indebtedness to life and what it costs to live in a fallen world. you made up that line , it doesn't exist.
because you are varying degrees spoiled , disconnected oblivious to what your life and what your sins cost this earth and your neighbors and even God in the physical and spiritual , And then unthankful about that and allow yourself to think you are guiltless because you have chosen to be oblivious to your indebtedness .
But someday he promises all will see as he sees and as he is ... that means you will see everything he sees that owns you because you are indebted to many things and exactly what he wanted to save you from. and that means you won't be able to chose oblivious anymore.

Very true. Peace
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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Well, yes, it's thank you that I thought of The Book of the Hebrews.

There was the Melchizidek priesthood order and there were the Levites.

One is where the Lord Yeshua Christ came from the others were from Moses.

That is the way the scripture states it right there in the 7th chapter of Hebrews.

That Moses never spoke of the Melchizedek priesthood order but one of his altars.

That God is the one who sent that mixed-multitude out of Egypt for it came to wares.

As much of stolen property and theft they could first do that Moses is the one who casts.

Breaking up the Egyptian Melchizedek order defacing the hieroglyphs that speak of Genesis.

A debauched group had taken over the land of Egypt but praised as being part of those saviors.

How the Akhenaten Revolution led the way to the Vatican priesthood taking over the governments.

There was Diocletian and an assortment of Roman emperors who called themselves best to be stewards.

There was Constantine with 'this sign "+" we do conquer' and so they did and it has been ever since papyrus.

The Coptic church was put under its manuscripts destroyed they wanted God shut out as they were emperors.

To saddle a horse is a sad thing if it is being forced into battle to have to fight the mercies of none have only faces.

Genesis 14 the land of the Sphinx knows who Christ was received him as Lord and Savior in that Valley of the Kings.


you so ben been Menewi'd/menaced and you don't even know what you are speaking about. Job and his righteous family existed before Mene and the mengewi wars.. .. so know what you say before you spout stuff you don't understand please.
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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As Jesus had said, there were two laws.

There was Moses' (singular) and God's law.

The 10 Commandments supercede Moses' laws.

If Noah sacrificed different from Abel who sacrificed fire, not the animal, then what injustices.

Also, again, another uncomplimentary reminder that God must change his mind about what he wants.

He must be a fickle God, even in the event that it would be sweet-smelling if they were blood sacrifices.

Adam and Eve were given garments to wear, God cannot contradict himself, as that math of man goes.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Testament of Levi": Levi 1:23~ "Offering to the Lord is a sweet-smelling savour, a reasonable and a bloodless offering".

Leviticus 24:

18 And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.beast for…: Heb. life for life

19 And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;

20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

21 And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~

But we are under grace and truth. But that does not let one get away with murder, or taking an eye out, or hurting their neighbor.

If righteous atonement never happens to the one who is offended, God will enter; there can never be a law of life is giving to one but takes life away from another.

This is as far as humanity goes, so what will gather.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Book of Hebrews is written to those who believed blood sacrifice was something, while it states that the blood sacrifice of animals was useless. (Hebrews 7:18)

Hebrews 10:

5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me;

6
with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased.

7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’ ”

8
First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law.
The ten commandments are the laws of Moses...
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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Probably not.

The skin's will probably scare them back into something.

The covering has changed.
Abel offered a burnt offering....
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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That assumes that the book is not lying about who set up the system, God or man. Oh, Mystic already pointed this out. Well, it's part of what you trust as authority, a self-contradictory book which clearly delineates development of thought about God from primitive to very advanced, or the Spirit of that "advanced" thought.
Make up a new religion...
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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Make up a new religion...
Should I call it "Reform Judaism?"
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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I believe it's also important that there is a distinction between ordinance and Law.
The point that G-d was making was that what good were these sacrifices if it is not followed up with repentance...
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