Does Jesus tempt people? (recall, experience, believe, Bible)
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The motive of my heart from a position of love would be to lay down my own life, not that of another. Your excessive or erotic interest in oneself and their narcissistic beliefs are not impressing anyone.
And that, qualifies as the most whacked insult you have ever made. Congratulations. Peace
I understand that it can be spiritualized and I don't want to argue with you about that. The symbolism you see in that story is important and meaningful to you.
I'm glad you can see my point to a degree. I would just say that a parent being willing to "sacrifice" their child in any sense of the word, literally or figuratively, isn't the same as a parent laying down their own life, literally or figuratively.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
The spiritual, of course. We obviously don't see eye to eye on the spiritual meaning of a lot of things -- that's just the way it is -- because we have different views of the nature of God and God's relationship to humanity.
Also, I no longer look for spiritual symbolism in the bible. If it comes, it comes, and I allow/welcome it, but I don't seek it, because I'm seeking to grow in my relationship with what is Real. But, I have been into bible symbolism in the past, and at the time, some of it was edifying in that it did stir up the desire for a relationship with what is Real, for me. I believe the same is true for you. So, I'm learning not to assume you or anyone else needs to let go of the same things that I have. Bible symbolism is important for you, unless and until it no longer is. Doesn't mean my "path" is better or more advanced than yours, it's just different than yours and uniquely fitted for me, and more advanced for me.
I really hope I worded that in the way my heart is intending it to be received.
The motive of my heart from a position of love would be to lay down my own life, not that of another.
Your excessive or erotic interest in oneself and their narcissistic beliefs are not impressing anyone.
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Originally Posted by Rbbi1
And that, qualifies as the most whacked insult you have ever made. Congratulations. Peace
Perhaps, but that is the way you sound and come across with your fanaticism.
And nobody has to believe the same way that you do, nor follow your commands.
No matter how zealous or passionate you are in your beliefs, or how you see yourself.
Perhaps, but that is the way you sound and come across with your fanaticism. And nobody has to believe the same way that you do, nor follow your commands.
No matter how zealous or passionate you are in your beliefs, or how you see yourself.
The zeal of the Lord's house has consumed me, and I don't have any commands. Peace
If you believe that God would ask any parent to kill their child as a sacrifice to please God or prove their allegiance, I don't understand why you would want to align yourself with it. That would be like the Nazi soldier being willing to kill to prove to Hitler that he was loyal.
If you believe that God would ask any parent to kill their child as a sacrifice to please God or prove their allegiance, I don't understand why you would want to align yourself with it. That would be like the Nazi soldier being willing to kill to prove to Hitler that he was loyal.
Hanni, I have no doubt that anything happening to your child would be devestating, as it would be for any parent. I also have no doubt that you would rather die than kill your child. Here's my question... Would you also be willing to displease a god that you thought had commanded you to do that to please it, rather than obey such a command?
Hanni, I have no doubt that anything happening to your child would be devestating, as it would be for any parent. I also have no doubt that you would rather die than kill your child. Here's my question... Would you also be willing to displease a god that you thought had commanded you to do that to please it, rather than obey such a command?
Because he knew God, because he knew God was testing him.
Other people talk about knowing God, but Abraham knew God and God visited him.
Jonah laughed at God because he knew God, Jonah knew God wasn't going to curse anyone.
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Peace
That would be like the Nazi soldier being willing to kill to prove to Hitler that he was loyal.
