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dah and the answers are not simple.. It seems nothing of god is simple enough for you . As your heart is revealed by the fact that you didn't not listen to the tape .. Because you do not care to know but only care to argue about it..
I don't have judge your heart.. Y/our actions or lack of them.. Proves what y/our heart really believes .
Good bye sir..i will pray for you.
What is simple to me is that the all according to your bible will by the Holy Ghost bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ is Lord(no force necessary).
I have a hard time with that. People can and do use the Bible to support any position they personally feel is right or wrong, from slavery to gay marriage. So if each person is the arbitrator of what they want to follow in the Bible, doesn't that give them an excuse for doing whatever them want and then using the forgiveness angle as a Get Out of Jail Free card, all the while still calling themselves Christians?
Did I just answer my own question?
Maybe.
But the flaw in your logic is that Christians who do support gay marriage aren't the ones who use the Bible to support their arguments, including that one.
You're missing the point that NF Christians AREN'T picking what they want to follow in the Bible because they aren't "following the Bible" in the first place. Following the Bible isn't the point.
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But the flaw in your logic is that Christians who do support gay marriage aren't the ones who use the Bible to support their arguments, including that one.
Um, I like to think they do. Something about loving your brother...although I don't know how literally they go with that!
Anyway, it seems a lot of Bible pushers not only don't follow what the Bible says, but they make up their own commandments when they want to: Thou shalt beat thy wife when she talks back, Thou shalt burn the witches, Thou shalt deny rights to those who sin differently than you do, etc.
You're missing the point that NF Christians AREN'T picking what they want to follow in the Bible because they aren't "following the Bible" in the first place. Following the Bible isn't the point.
*pouts* Well, heck, I always thought anyone trying to sell you their brand of snake oil always used it themselves. I must have been in the ozone the day it was announced that snake oil and how good it was for people wasn't the point of selling it. Just the cost per bottle.
lol. Why won't you just answer the simple question rather than ranting and raving?. The question is how do the all bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ is Lord?. Stop reading it like it is saying The knee of every bible believe will bow and every bible believer will confess Jesus Christ is Lord. The ALL includes those you call cowards.
I need to appologize to you because the Lord reminded me of the parable about the 11 hour workers who get the same pay as those who worked all day.. I have no problem with that. I have issues with your interpetations.. and out of context reading of the word.
and in REV Rev 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this down: Blessed are those who die in the Lord from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, they are blessed indeed, for they will rest from their hard work; for their good deeds follow them!”
so the last groups will be the greatest it seems.. but their " work" is hardest.. too..
OH but we if we are of faith , we are not saved by our works are we? we are rewarded by our works.. but are these last workers being saved by their works?? saved as though by fire even?
1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
and yes maybe they bow their knee .. but BY fire and trails many times hotter than those who have always walked in the Paths of the Lord and of the spirit and the Father's will .
so there is a reason To bow our knee now.. as I doubt all who are offered that last option at the last minute will take the Lord up on it , when they find out the cost..
because no matter how you look at it .. REV to the churches still states " to Those who Overcome I will " do such and such .... it only makes the promises to the ones who "Overcome" I have no idea if that has anything to do with their salvation.
I don't get it. Christians were told via their bible what's sinful and what is not. Sin apparently bothers your God and if the sinning Christian also believes in hell, I REALLY don't understand why they don't just quit sinning.
If I believed hell was real, I certainly would not covet my neighbour's wife. Probably not even if she was Susan Sarandon.
So, the question is, why do Christians continue to sin?
Nobody has been given power not to sin since about 100 years after Jesus died when they converted to the Roman Jesus and rejected the feasts along with the gifts that came with the conversion to the feasts with gifts and rewards from feasts. The Holy spirit came upon people in power so that they would not sin, and this was some serious scary stuff to those who had the Holy spirit. If anyone really had the Holy spirit and were acting the way people act today, they would have already fallen dead and been crushed like powder.
Hebrews 6 ~ Christians claiming to have tasted the Holy spirit to continue in their sin, DIE. 1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3And this will we do, if God permit. 4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. 9But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. 10For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. 11And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: 12That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
I always see people quoting scripture written to and about disciples who received power not to sin, and I have never known any power like that, and I don't know any man who has that same power of rain that fell and went away as it was prophesied to go away.
If somebody has the Holy spirit, then let them heal, and by all means, let us see a righteous person because I don't think there is such an animal.
Those first Disciples of Christ, husbands and wives sold their own houses to give to the poor widows of Israel, and that was their whole plan, to insanely give up everything, but they actually had the power of the Holy spirit.
A husband and a wife sold their house and gave the great portion to the widow's fund, and they were just being reasonable in keeping some of that money back as a responsible thing to do, and after they made this great sacrifice to live common amongst the disciples having no house, they both were struck down dead and seriously frowned upon. Can you imagine this same judgment being passed out amongst everyone who was claiming to have the power of the Holy spirit?
America will call 2017 the quintessential year of Hypocrisy, like that Weinstein thing that was so bad, dude pushing himself on a woman and women being subjectifiedand that is just a bit of nastiness from a really creepy dude ESPECIALLY with the work he is in and abusing his power.
We have finally arrived at the height of hypocrisy, as bad as Weinstein is, I really can't say that I am any better. I have never pushed myself on a woman like creepy boy did, but just looking at porn, or just using google GETS you into the creepy file, heck, google is a porn sight.
Society teaches us one thing and then expects another and it's like we have suddenly arrived to see just how evil we are, I know I always feel ashamed, I guess I can't even understand men who are not ashamed of themselves but I suppose there be men like that, but how many men can say that their hands aren't dirty when they come and go through so many dirty paths that DO SUBJECTIFY WOMEN, and society wants us to accept porn, they want us to accept cheer leaders, and beauty queens with the best bikini's. Men are just going to do what we do, we want women, we chase women, we are hard wired to chase women and but EVEN if Weinstein deserved to be outed, and now the whole world is upset with Matt Lauer.
Poor Matt Lauer and everyone making him out to be a monster, and believe you me, I NEVER LIKED THE GUY, I LOATH FRANKEN and I think what he did was seriously bad, but the way I see it, everyone is a freaking hypocrite acting as if they have no sin at all. Christians scoffing here and there as the great mountains always wont to do.
I just can't pretend that I am innocent, I mean, I haven't even touched a woman in over 15 years, but for me to pretend that I have no sin would just be pretending.
I think God has a peculiar way in making us judge ourselves, that's what I get out of all this stuff, I think we have actually reached a point of just killing all the men lol. No matter how nice a guy I am, I just can't see myself any better than this Matt Lauer dude that I despise, even though I want to laugh at him, I want to spit on him, I would just be spitting against the wind and I really believe the truth will be found in us all, and they aint gonna be no lying.
A Nation of Hypocrites, millions of Christians claiming they have received power not to sin as they sit there watching porn, and THEY STILL BELIEVE they have the holy spirit.
What is simple to me is that the all according to your bible will by the Holy Ghost bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ is Lord(no force necessary).
ps there is many things which can be motivations to our will. He doesn't say here what that motivation is .. so since we don't know doesn't give you the right to Assume anything .
as you have assumed it will be their will that is their motive.. because our will is not a motive..
We don't know what the Motive is that makes any or all of them bow their knee!! and if that that bowing is spread over say the possible 21-25 ( 24 1/2) years.. I guarantee the Motives for that act of submission will change from the start of it to the end of it . there will be a difference in motives at the end in the time of his Father's wrath.. oh just know it ..
Now Yes and why we bow now is only By his spirit , gifts of love and faith and hope from the His spirit/ his breath , maybe because we came out of hiding and threw away our fig leafs! and said to him maybe something like king David said.. ..
Psa 139:23
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
Psa 139:24
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. me and know me and every wicked way in me and lead me to your path..
and he even provides the faith and hope to help us to help our will.. and I doubt that always is
ps there is many things which can be motivations to our will. He doesn't say here what that motivation is .. so since we don't know doesn't give you the right to ASS ume anything .
as you have assumed it will be their will as their motive.. because our will is not a motive..
We don't know what the Motive is that makes any or all of them bow their knee and that bow is spread over say the possible 21 years.. I guarantee the Motives for that act of submission will change from the start to the end. their will be different at the end just know it ..
Now why we bow now is only By his spirit , gifts of love and faith and hope from the His spirit/ his breath , maybe because we came out of hiding and threw away our fig leafs! and said to him maybe something like king David said.. ..
Psa 139:23
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
Psa 139:24
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. me and know me and every wicked way in me and lead me to your path..
Why do you ignore what your bible says,do you not the believe bible you claim is inerrant and irrevocable?.Your bible gives us the answer to how every knee shall and every tongue confess Jesus Christ is Lord. It is by the Holy Ghost that ALL WILL bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ is Lord, there is no way that they can.
Why do you ignore what your bible says,do you not the believe bible you claim is inerrant and irrevocable?.Your bible gives us the answer to how every knee shall and every tongue confess Jesus Christ is Lord. It is by the Holy Ghost that ALL WILL bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ is Lord, there is no way that they can.
The fact that they will .
doesn't prove a motive.
you have taken two scriptures and out of context and crammed them together to make up your own stories and hairy fairy tales.. . as if they are one thought .
read the whole chapters of those vrs you are using if you can find them . either you are taking the verse about trying demonic spirits out of context or one of these out of context.. as you do not understand the will is not a Motive.
Rom 14:10
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.( so where is it written?)
Rom 14:12
¶
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Rom 14:13
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
Ps this day the motive is about Judgement day.. :hamd
Isa 45:19
I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
Isa 45:20
Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.
Isa 45:21
Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isa 45:22
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isa 45:23
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isa 45:24
Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
Isa 45:25
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
you must find the context of your man made of stories.. this is the context. to those who escaped the nations..
does it not follow some kind of logic.. some didn't escaped the nations..
now there is probably about 24 years of "escaping the nations" to be done still... you up for it big fella?
and Yes I will guess that might only happen by the will Of the Spirit too.
though you can't take the scriptures about demons confessions and apply them here to this senario .
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. Why won't you just answer the simple question rather than ranting and raving?. The question is how do the all bow the knee and confess Jesus Christ is Lord?. Stop reading it like it is saying The knee of every bible believe will bow and every bible believer will confess Jesus Christ is Lord. The ALL includes those you call cowards.
