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Old 04-06-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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The invitation from the "King" is not necessarily from God. It's from the Kingdom itself. The "good and evil" guests sound like the scary Gentiles, which would have included lowly, common everyday people. It would also include Roman soldiers. The soldiers are not "evil" in reality, but merely victims of the worldly system they were a part of, which made rules about "good and evil" based on their outdated morality. That system was approved of by the Pharisees, who are the "blind" people not realizing they are not truly part of God's kingdom. Jesus has been described as a "rebellious Pharisee" by some Jewish scholars. That makes sense. I think a lot of these parables came from the early Christian community, and I think that included young people who didn't approve of their parents' generation and their values who were clueless about what a true messiah would be like.

It's a very political illustration. Almost like a political cartoon. This is kind of like what happened in the US in the 1960's when the younger generation began to reject their parents' outdated and business-oriented (ie "worldly") values of money and power. And they began to accept similar thinking people from outside cultures. Rejecting traditional religion which never quite understood the truth. A similar grassroots movement.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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This is consistent with the idea that even though people could claim Abraham as their ancestor, they were not part of God's people. Paul addressed that in Romans 2-3. Not all of Israel will be saved. Some will be pretty surprised when they stand before God to find out that they will not be welcomed in.
Why will you not be surprised that you are welcomed ?.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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Quite possible. However, when asked how he came to be there without the furnished attire, the man had no answer and was promptly ejected from the feast “outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (verses 12-13).
Sounds familiar …from where have you come? Jesus gave him no answer ...and he was crucified.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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...Further, I would say that the uninvited guest who was not wearing the proper clothes, could be like a young conservative guy trying to join into a hippie party in the 1960's. Just because it looked fun. But he would be rejected (spiritually) because he would not really fit in with everyone else, who were there based on being compelled by the spirit. So, while he might look like he was having fun, he really wasn't a true part of them. And all it would take to join would be an inner change inside of himself, which could occur in the twinkling of an eye whenever he realized the truth and finally "got it".
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Old 04-06-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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God is patient, but He will not tolerate wickedness forever (Obadiah 1:15). His judgment will come upon those who reject His offer of salvation. Considering what that salvation cost Jesus, is not this judgment well deserved (see Hebrews 10:29-31)?

29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/parable-wedding-feast.html
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Old 04-06-2018, 06:25 PM
 
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God is patient, but He will not tolerate wickedness forever (Obadiah 1:15). His judgment will come upon those who reject His offer of salvation. Considering what that salvation cost Jesus, is not this judgment well deserved (see Hebrews 10:29-31)?

29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/parable-wedding-feast.html
What is the salvation of the Lord Jimmie?, in your own words please with clear and conscise support from the scriptures. I am not interested in gotquestions or anything else you who claim you are bible believers turn to to back up your beliefs.

Let me just say this, the Salvation of the Lord did not begin with the ministry of Jesus, it as always been available throughout the history of mankind, God has always been our salvation.

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Old 04-06-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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"What is the meaning of the Parable of the Wedding Feast?"

Matthew 22

Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying, 2 “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. 3 And he sent out his slaves to call those who had been invited to the wedding feast, and they were unwilling to come. 4 Again he sent out other slaves saying, ‘Tell those who have been invited, “Behold, I have prepared my dinner; my oxen and my fattened livestock are all butchered and everything is ready; come to the wedding feast.”’ 5 But they paid no attention and went their way, one to his own farm, another to his business, 6 and the rest seized his slaves and mistreated them and killed them. 7 But the king was enraged, and he sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and set their city on fire. 8 Then he said to his slaves, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. 9 Go therefore to the main highways, and as many as you find there, invite to the wedding feast.’ 10 Those slaves went out into the streets and gathered together all they found, both evil and good; and the wedding hall was filled with dinner guests.

11 “But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12 and he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?’ And the man was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.”

The Kingdom of heaven.



1And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, 2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14For many are called, but few are chosen.
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I AM THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.


The kingdom is within you, it doesn't come with some blast or great thing, the kingdom comes when you seek the kingdom, the kingdom is within you, and EVERY TIME you see this phrase,'' THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN,'' is is showing you what YOU ARE.


It is embarrassing to see people speaking of Feast days of Christ who have rejected the knowledge of the feast days.


Those people who would not come up to the wedding, they wouldn't come up to an appointed, ordained holy day of Christ firmly sat on an appointed feast.
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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The slaves are the prophets. Those who rejected the feast are the people of Israel. Those who were gathered are all the rest of people. The man without the proper clothing is He who is dressed without the love of God.
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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The slaves are the prophets. Those who rejected the feast are the people of Israel. Those who were gathered are all the rest of people. The man without the proper clothing is He who is dressed without the love of God.
When did Judah ever reject the feasts?


The kingdom of Israel rejected the feasts 1000 year before Jesus and they were wiped out and ended Because they rejected the feasts. Jews of Judah have never rejected the feasts, Christians reject the feasts and they want to discuss a parable about the feasts.


The kingdom of heaven is you, THIS ISN'T TALKING ABOUT HISTORY.
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:33 AM
 
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WHERE in the world do people expect to understand Parables of Jesus without knowing the feasts of Jesus and everything that happens in the feasts. Jesus didn't just start speaking as a mad man, he used the feasts along with the history of Israel and Judah to speak in secrets that ONLY THE JEW WOULD KNOW.




That parable does not stand alone, and neither do any of the parables stand alone.


Here are 4 parables that are to be viewed together because they are one single saying that is speaking of the barley harvest, the wheat harvest, and the fruit harvest and the 4th parable tells you this because the first 3 are the 3 measures that leaven is hidden in.


The sower
The wheat and tares
The Mustard seed
The kingdom of heaven is as leaven that a woman took and hid in 3 measures of meal, YOU ARE THOSE 3 MEASURES IN THE 3 HARVESTS.


Anyone who researches these 4 parables will find out that the 4 are one saying.


The barley harvest is the body, it is Passover, the wheat harvest IS the Wheat harvest and IS Pentecost, the mustard seed IS the feast of Tabernacles where a person is given his final seed to become a great tree of the feast of Tabernacles where the trees are honored and brought into the temple on the shoulders of the congregation.


Jesus can't explain the wheat harvest without going into the Barley harvest and he can't explain the mustard seed without going into Sukkot because of the fact that he is speaking of body, soul, and spirit in the 3 harvests of the temple that we are, and it is showing a steady progression through each harvest.


You can't explain the spirit without explaining the body and soul. you can't explain the soul of the wheat harvest without explain the body and spirit. If you don't look at all 4 of those parables as one saying, you can't get to the truth of the harvest in body, soul, and spirit.


EVERY TIME you see the phrase,'' The kingdom of heaven,'' it is ALWAYS speaking of what YOU ARE.


SEEK YE THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.


LUKE 17


The Coming of the Kingdom
20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you


The wedding feast

1And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, 2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king,


The parable is showing YOU, it isn't showing history, it is showing what happens INSIDE YOU, the Kingdom of heaven IS WITHIN YOU.

How many times have people told you to come up to the feasts of Christ and you reject the offer EVERY TIME.
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