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Old 05-20-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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CHURCHES ENDORSING BDS MOVEMENT

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement (also known as the BDS Movement) is a global campaign promoting various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets what the campaign describes as Israel's obligations under international law", defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and promotion of the right of return of Palestinian refugees.

The campaign, organized and coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee, was started on 9 July 2005 by over 170 Palestinian non-governmental organizations in support of the Palestinian cause for boycott of Israel, disinvestment from Israel and international sanctions against Israel, citing a body of UN resolutions and specifically echoing the anti-apartheid campaigns against white minority rule in apartheid era South Africa. Protests and conferences in support of the campaign have been held in a number of countries around the world.

- Wikipedia

International Churches

Council of South African Independent Churches
British Methodist Church
Church of England
NCCA – National Council of Churches in Australia

US churches

Episcopal Church
Presbyterian Church
Methodist Church
United Church of Christ
Mennonite Church (Quakers)
Unitarian Universalist Church

I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse..." - Genesis 12:3a

It is rather interesting to note that calls for Israel to obey international law do not themselves recognize that same law giving Israel the right to exist among the community of nations. Palestinian interests regularly utilize every form of anti-semitic venom to justify encroachment upon the land given to Israel by God.

It should be noted here that there is not, nor has there ever been an Arab nation called Palestine, yet the supporters of Palestinian claims seem to forget this historic fact. The area came to be called Palestine because of the wish of the Roman Empire to wrest the land's historic roots from the indigenous people and to imprint their own culture upon it. The Romans were only partly successful. When they left the name remained. Long before Rome named it, God had given it to the Jews.

American media, usually left wing in nature, stands with fascist interests in condemning the right of Israel to defend itself. As of this writing, the list of churches who support the BDS movement is incomplete due to the shifting nature of each group's internal politics. For instance, the Vatican seems to waver between accepting Palestinian interests and pretending to support peace in the region. There will be no peace in the region as long as one Jew remains alive.

God gave the State of Israel to the Jews as a homeland.

Those who attempt to stand against Israel may find themselves working against the very hand of God. Several churches in America have now added their closet anti-semitism to the greater interests of those who hate God and God's people Israel. May they suffer the curses they wish upon Israel, according to the Word of God they once claimed sacred.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

 
Old 05-20-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Participation in politics such as this should cause tax-exempt status to be revoked EITHER WAY.
 
Old 05-23-2018, 06:31 AM
 
Location: In bucolic TN
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I question the validity of any reportedly published text that puts Mennonites with an origin of Quakers (Society of Friends) and refers simply to the Methodists vs. United Methodists. This deserves more than a scratching at the surface. I think this is a political bomb (text reference) vs. an existential reality, and I would question the alleged support by all the identified groups as described.

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Old 05-23-2018, 07:16 AM
 
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CHURCHES ENDORSING BDS MOVEMENT


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I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse..." - Genesis 12:3a



that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Oh, for God's sake. Stop. This is propaganda.
 
Old 05-23-2018, 07:30 AM
 
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Palestinian interests regularly utilize every form of anti-semitic venom to justify encroachment upon the land given to Israel by God.
As a point of fact, you do know that the Jewish people consider "God" to be the sum of all of the Jewish people, correct? Like Voltron? Each has a piece of "god" in them, and together they comprise "god" (which by the way is a desperate and relatively modern Rabbinical invention that counters their first theology that their souls were made as reflections of God, but were apart from God's essence).

In the book that they either wrote themselves or stole from a prior culture, they deeded themselves this land.

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It should be noted here that there is not, nor has there ever been an Arab nation called Palestine, yet the supporters of Palestinian claims seem to forget this historic fact. The area came to be called Palestine because of the wish of the Roman Empire to wrest the land's historic roots from the indigenous people and to imprint their own culture upon it.
According to Judah, didn't Judah slaughter Canaan for the land?

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Long before Rome named it, God had given it to the Jews.
See the first comments.

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American media, usually left wing in nature,
Heavily Jewish.

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stands with fascist interests in condemning the right of Israel to defend itself.
Nonsense. The media largely defends Israel outright or via omission. If Israel is "condemned", then what was Nazi Germany? The fact is that he media uses soft gloves for Israel. It it was really condemning it, it would roast Israel nonstop until it was gone or a war was begun against it.

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God gave the State of Israel to the Jews as a homeland.
You are repetitive. Tell me, do other peoples also have homelands that they can possess according the Jewish belief?

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Those who attempt to stand against Israel may find themselves working against the very hand of God.
Sounds like a cool story about an invented threat, meant to intimidate other tribes, that would have all people worshiping the Jewish people.

Is their god your god? Really? Are you sure about that?

Most tribes had their own god(s) before Judah started to insist that theirs was the only one. That's convenient. And why would you believe them or their threats in regard to that assertion?

What did Christ come to do? Was it to reinforce belief in the Pharisee religion?

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Several churches in America have now added their closet anti-semitism to the greater interests of those who hate God and God's people Israel.
With utterly shameless propaganda to forward this supremacy, which Christianity overtly counters.

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May they suffer the curses they wish upon Israel, according to the Word of God they once claimed sacred.
Judah was south of Israel.

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Edom

Idumea is frequently mentioned in Latin poems of the period, usually as a synonym for Judea.

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Old 05-23-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Choir Loft View Post
International Churches

Council of South African Independent Churches
British Methodist Church
Church of England
NCCA – National Council of Churches in Australia

US churches

Episcopal Church
Presbyterian Church
Methodist Church
United Church of Christ
Mennonite Church (Quakers)
Unitarian Universalist Church

I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse..." - Genesis 12:3a

It is rather interesting to note that calls for Israel to obey international law do not themselves recognize that same law giving Israel the right to exist among the community of nations.
Just to be clear, are you sure these churches do not recognize Israels right to exist? That would be quite a thing to say.
 
Old 05-23-2018, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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It isn't churches, denominations, and groups that matter. They're not much different from political factions and terrorist sects.

What matters is the individual. That's what God is keeping an eye on. Live your life in an honorable and loving way, and you won't have to worry about what's going on around you or in the world.

The human race is foolish. Ultimately, we can only answer for our each, individual lives.
 
Old 05-23-2018, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Just to be clear, are you sure these churches do not recognize Israels right to exist? That would be quite a thing to say.
I think they (those churches) want Israel to recognize Palestine's right to exist --- afterall, they came there and stole the land from them, thanks to the U.S. doling out spoils of war after World War II. I do not believe that was the fulfillment of God's promise to Israel. It goes against God's commandments to steal and to treat your neighbor like an animal. I have heard some of the top brass in Israel consider the Palestinians to be like **** roaches that need to be exterminated. If they would "never forget" the holocaust, I thought that would mean they would never repeat the evil done to them. But they are doing the evil that was done to them, only doing it to a people who never did anything wrong to them. Shame.

You may find this surprising, but there are some who think the "star of David" - which is actually the seal of Solomon and is an occult symbol may be the mark of the beast.
 
Old 05-23-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Some states and municipalities and places of employment are trying to make it a crime to join the bds movement. For those who don't know what bds means, here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycot..._and_Sanctions

I personally find it to be justified and I agree with the movement. Israel is not above the law, and they are not abiding by the law of Christ.
 
Old 05-23-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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CHURCHES ENDORSING BDS MOVEMENT

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement (also known as the BDS Movement) is a global campaign promoting various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets what the campaign describes as Israel's obligations under international law", defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and promotion of the right of return of Palestinian refugees.

The campaign, organized and coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee, was started on 9 July 2005 by over 170 Palestinian non-governmental organizations in support of the Palestinian cause for boycott of Israel, disinvestment from Israel and international sanctions against Israel, citing a body of UN resolutions and specifically echoing the anti-apartheid campaigns against white minority rule in apartheid era South Africa. Protests and conferences in support of the campaign have been held in a number of countries around the world.

- Wikipedia

International Churches

Council of South African Independent Churches
British Methodist Church
Church of England
NCCA – National Council of Churches in Australia

US churches

Episcopal Church
Presbyterian Church
Methodist Church
United Church of Christ
Mennonite Church (Quakers)
Unitarian Universalist Church

I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse..." - Genesis 12:3a

It is rather interesting to note that calls for Israel to obey international law do not themselves recognize that same law giving Israel the right to exist among the community of nations. Palestinian interests regularly utilize every form of anti-semitic venom to justify encroachment upon the land given to Israel by God.

It should be noted here that there is not, nor has there ever been an Arab nation called Palestine, yet the supporters of Palestinian claims seem to forget this historic fact. The area came to be called Palestine because of the wish of the Roman Empire to wrest the land's historic roots from the indigenous people and to imprint their own culture upon it. The Romans were only partly successful. When they left the name remained. Long before Rome named it, God had given it to the Jews.

American media, usually left wing in nature, stands with fascist interests in condemning the right of Israel to defend itself. As of this writing, the list of churches who support the BDS movement is incomplete due to the shifting nature of each group's internal politics. For instance, the Vatican seems to waver between accepting Palestinian interests and pretending to support peace in the region. There will be no peace in the region as long as one Jew remains alive.

God gave the State of Israel to the Jews as a homeland.

Those who attempt to stand against Israel may find themselves working against the very hand of God. Several churches in America have now added their closet anti-semitism to the greater interests of those who hate God and God's people Israel. May they suffer the curses they wish upon Israel, according to the Word of God they once claimed sacred.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
So long as Israel murders, starves, and abuses Palestinians, and demands to play a huge role in U.S. foreign policy, then I see no reason to respect them. Many of those in power in Israel are Jewish Atheists who clearly do not understand God's law of love in Christ. I think it is silly to build foreign policy on one snippet of scripture cherry picked from the book of Genesis.
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