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Old 09-02-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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The wide scope of ta panta

God is the builder, the architect, the creator, and the life-giver of all things, ta panta. Everything, in the absolute sense, has come into being from God, especially all that has the breath of life. There is nothing excluded. This means that God is the owner of all things, all of creation, both the good and the bad. All things come from only one source, God the Father, and all things come through only one source, the Lord Jesus Christ. Thus, God is not merely the creator of the all, but God and His Son are uniquely joined to the all, and the all's origin and destiny are in God.

Ta Panta - The All

 
Old 09-03-2021, 01:11 AM
 
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Too many posts since I posted last.

I suppose that it is time, once again, to let the blind be leaders of the blind.
 
Old 09-03-2021, 03:27 AM
 
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What is spirit? I was watching a Ted Talk the other day. It was on how the bodies of living creatures seem to have a plan built into them for how they develop which is not a part of their DNA. Yes, DNA encodes who we will be. This had nothing to do with undermining that.



They experimented with flatworms, I think. It was a while ago. If they did a certain thing, they would get a two headed outcome. They were able to infer that there was another thing than DNA controlling the form.


Jesus was a man born of the Spirit coming upon Mary. Do you suppose that means that the man who was Jesus as He walked upon the earth formed differently than the rest of us, while still being like us?


Then, what did it mean when the Holy Spirit came upon the man Jesus at the baptism of John? For one thing, it meant that the Holy Spirit could fall upon someone whom He would then never leave. Jesus was perfect for Him.



Of course, this led to Jesus saying that unless He left the Helper could not come. What is interesting is that the Helper is actually both Jesus and the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit will never leave Jesus. They will always be one. This is obvious from the book of Revelation, where the Lamb is described as having seven eyes and seven horns, which are the seven Spirits of God as they roam throughout the earth. The Lamb is the one who opens the scroll. The only question is, why wasn't He right there when the scroll was first produced? Why was there lamenting that no one could be found to open the scroll? Was it because He was roaming throughout the earth?

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Old 09-03-2021, 04:35 AM
 
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What is spirit? I was watching a Ted Talk the other day. It was on how the bodies of living creatures seem to have a plan built into them for how they develop which is not a part of their DNA. Yes, DNA encodes who we will be. This had nothing to do with undermining that.



They experimented with flatworms, I think. It was a while ago. If they did a certain thing, they would get a two headed outcome. They were able to infer that there was another thing than DNA controlling the form.


Jesus was a man born of the Spirit coming upon Mary. Do you suppose that means that the man who was Jesus as He walked upon the earth formed differently than the rest of us, while still being like us?


Then, what did it mean when the Holy Spirit came upon the man Jesus at the baptism of John? For one thing, it meant that the Holy Spirit could fall upon someone whom He would then never leave. Jesus was perfect for Him.



Of course, this led to Jesus saying that unless He left the Helper could not come. What is interesting is that the Helper is actually both Jesus and the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit will never leave Jesus. They will always be one. This is obvious from the book of Revelation, where the Lamb is described as having seven eyes and seven horns, which are the seven Spirits of God as they roam throughout the earth. The Lamb is the one who opens the scroll. The only question is, why wasn't He right there when the scroll was first produced? Why was there lamenting that no one could be found to open the scroll? Was it because He was roaming throughout the earth?
Yes, they can control things like protein concentration and rna and other things "past" the dna. Think of it like a construction site.

The blue prints say something ... then the rest is left to chance.
 
Old 09-03-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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Yes, they can control things like protein concentration and rna and other things "past" the dna. Think of it like a construction site.

The blue prints say something ... then the rest is left to chance.
Our Father's blueprint has zero chance to it. None.

He has cherished it in His own mind with perfect planning.

The Hebrew word for face is paniym, literally faces (plural).

When we think about God, we tend to focus only upon one of His faces at a time. God is love or He is holy. All these faces are His at once; and so the word paniym accurately reflects the truth of God's multifaceted being. As we get to know Him better we begin to appreciate the complexity of His nature and the fact that our focus on one face is a very limited view, since there's so much more going on in His amazing Being.

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Old 09-03-2021, 07:12 AM
 
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The vast salvation of the Lord

Our Lord saves us not only from doom, but into Himself. His salvation encompasses past, present and future tenses.

God has not appointed us to wrath but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Putting on = endusamenoi =

Day clothes for days work of battle. The breastplate (helmet) is an armed soldier.

To obtain = peripoilisin

Literally, unto the obtaining.

In three out of five instances in the N.T. the word clearly means acquiring or obtaining redemption.

"God didn't set us up for an angry rejection but for salvation by our Master, Jesus Christ. He died for us, a death that triggered life. Whether we're awake with the living or asleep with the dead, we're alive with Him." ~msg
 
Old 09-04-2021, 04:05 AM
 
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Tell me if this isn't the case, but I think that in heaven there are millions of still elderly old women who are circling a very white and clean spot. It is a scene that could be out of the Haj, but many times larger. Oh, they aren't admiring the spot. None of them think it is clean enough. They all have rag in hand and are eager for their chance to make the spot into what it should be.



That is what it is like to bring your ideas of gender, nationality, ability to feed one's self, ability to feed others, or the sly ideas you have about what this group or that group really must be up to. The kingdom isn't made of those things. When God tells you He won't have any child molesters, any liars, any cheats, He is telling you that He won't have you bringing those things with you. After all, those things are born of that stuff. They arise from the unmet need we have for love. That love is that which teaches us how to be whole and complete beings that can fairly judge because we have no lack that would compel us to judge in favor of it because of its absence. God is making something new.

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Old 09-04-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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Tell me if this isn't the case, but I think that in heaven there are millions of still elderly old women who are circling a very white and clean spot. It is a scene that could be out of the Haj, but many times larger. Oh, they aren't admiring the spot. None of them think it is clean enough. They all have rag in hand and are eager for their chance to make the spot into what it should be.



That is what it is like to bring your ideas of gender, nationality, ability to feed one's self, ability to feed others, or the sly ideas you have about what this group or that group really must be up to. The kingdom isn't made of those things. When God tells you He won't have any child molesters, any liars, any cheats, He is telling you that He won't have you bringing those things with you. After all, those things are born of that stuff. They arise from the unmet need we have for love. That love is that which teaches us how to be whole and complete beings that can fairly judge because we have no lack that would compel us to judge in favor of it because of its absence. God is making something new.
God is indeed making something new, He is in fact moving to radically change the whole broken creation.

He declares "I am making all new", that new is unprecedented in scope!

"This resurrection life you received from God is not a timid, grave-tending life. It’s adventurously expectant, greeting God with a childlike 'What’s next, Papa?' God’s Spirit touches our spirits and confirms who we really are. We know who he is, and we know who we are: Father and children. And we know we are going to get what’s coming to us—an unbelievable inheritance! We go through exactly what Christ goes through. If we go through the hard times with him, then we’re certainly going to go through the good times with him! That’s why I don’t think there’s any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. The created world itself can hardly wait for what’s coming next. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens." ~MSG

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Old 09-04-2021, 07:06 AM
 
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"For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."

Abba Father = Abba Pater

Those who through Christ exalted in the closest bonds of love and intimacy & made acquainted with His purposes.

“The child asks of the Father whom he knows. Thus, the essence of Christian prayer is not general adoration, but definite, concrete petition. The right way to approach God is to stretch out our hands and ask of One who we know has the heart of a Father.” ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

God attaches no strings to His love. None. His love for us does not depend on our loveliness. It goes one way. As far as our sin may extend, the grace of our Father extends further. ~Tullian Tchividjian,
 
Old 09-04-2021, 08:06 AM
 
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"For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but you have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."

Abba Father = Abba Pater

Those who through Christ exalted in the closest bonds of love and intimacy & made acquainted with His purposes.

“The child asks of the Father whom he knows. Thus, the essence of Christian prayer is not general adoration, but definite, concrete petition. The right way to approach God is to stretch out our hands and ask of One who we know has the heart of a Father.” ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

God attaches no strings to His love. None. His love for us does not depend on our loveliness. It goes one way. As far as our sin may extend, the grace of our Father extends further. ~Tullian Tchividjian,
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