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But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Oh dear a believer being called Satan and some.
Thing about it, Peter was a child of God, not of the devil. He was one of Christs Sheep
Thing about it, Peter was a child of God, not of the devil. He was one of Christs Sheep
He called him satan, you cannot get anymore damning than that. If this does not make clear to you that there is an old and new self and what is of the devil and one of God, then nothing will. The serpent did not impregnate Eve with serpent seed, a lying seed, yes, for just like Jesus' word(SEED) is the truth, the devil's word( SEED) is a lie..... He was a liar from the beginning and the Father of them.
Thing about it, Peter was a child of God, not of the devil. He was one of Christs Sheep
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Originally Posted by pcamps
He called him satan, you cannot get anymore damning than that. If this does not make clear to you that there is an old and new self and what is of the devil and one of God, then nothing will. The serpent did not impregnate Eve with serpent seed, a lying seed, yes, for just like Jesus' word(SEED) is the truth, the devil's word( SEED) is a lie..... He was a liar from the beginning and the Father of them.
Actually, Peter was not converted until after Jesus rose from the dead (Luke 22:31-32).
Looks like I won the argument.
Of course I'm not being obtuse; I'm actually being sharp...
Does aionios life come to an end?
If it does, then it isn't endless...and the gospel isn't really even good news.
If it doesn't, then neither does aoinios punishment come to an end.
Your obtuseness is the result of your obsession with sin and punishment. There is no fracking punishment, just well-earned consequences from what we have BECOME. If you have become a spiritually immature ANIMAL you will have earned the spiritual consequences that attend being a spiritually immature animal. If you have become a mature Spirit, you will have earned the spiritual consequences that attend being a mature Spirit. It is not rocket science.
Your obtuseness is the result of your obsession with sin and punishment. There is no fracking punishment, just well-earned consequences from what we have BECOME. If you have become a spiritually immature ANIMAL you will have earned the spiritual consequences that attend being a spiritually immature animal. If you have become a mature Spirit, you will have earned the spiritual consequences that attend being a mature Spirit. It is not rocket science.
We can never earn salvation (see Romans 4:1-8, esp. v.4).
We can never earn salvation (see Romans 4:1-8, esp. v.4).
We don't have to earn our salvation. Jesus did that and it is finished. We can put our trust and faith in Jesus because it is TRUE. We have nothing to do with our salvation.
We don't have to earn our salvation. Jesus did that and it is finished. We can put our trust and faith in Jesus because it is TRUE. We have nothing to do with our salvation.
We don't have to earn our salvation. Jesus did that and it is finished. We can put our trust and faith in Jesus because it is TRUE. We have nothing to do with our salvation.
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I am seeing a disconnect in what you are saying;
You seem to be contradicting yourself.
You see a contradiction to what you believe because you THINK we have something to do with our salvation. We do NOT. Jesus saved us some 2022 years ago when He became one of us as God incarnate. Remember that is the true Gospel, right?
He also provided a personal Divine Revelation of God's True Nature of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross so we would have faith in Him, hope for age-during life, and agape love for God and each other.
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