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I think you’re doing a good job of uncovering the true purpose of this thread and the underlying anti-biblical-Christianity bias being promoted by moderators on a Christianity forum. Very revealing.
What is revealing is your ignorance, lack of knowledge and understanding.
I think you’re doing a good job of uncovering the true purpose of this thread and the underlying anti-biblical-Christianity bias being promoted by moderators on a Christianity forum. Very revealing.
If mensaguy and I are posting as moderators, the words would be in red. Otherwise, we are posting as members, same as you.
The original thread was not begun by either one of us.
The "true purpose" was to keep an evergreen topic that kept popping up to one thread instead of invading multiple others.
Luk 8:52, And all wept, and bewailed her: but he said, Weep not; she is not dead, but sleepeth.
Luk 8:53, And they laughed him to scorn, knowing that she was dead.
Luk 8:54, And he put them all out, and took her by the hand, and called, saying, Maid, arise.
Luk 8:55, And her spirit came again, and she arose straightway: and he commanded to give her meat.
Luk 8:56, And her parents were astonished: but he charged them that they should tell no man what was done.
I will say this...that I am really very secure in my heterosexuality...happily married, as a matter of fact. I have no desire whatsoever for the things that you want to accuse me of having desire for. It is merely wishful thinking on your part. For I am certain that your reasoning is that if I am really like you, that you don't have to change or repent in order to come to Christ.
Fact is, I may have even had those tendencies before I gave my heart to Christ...
But, as the scripture said, "And such were some of you; but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."
Since becoming born again, I have had more trouble with heterosexual porn than anything of a homosexual nature.
Fortunately, I have been free of that also; going on two years now.
Not a long time by most standards...but considering how often I looked at porn, it is a good accomplishment...and the Lord Jesus Christ gets the glory for what He did in my life; because I am not going backward. There is too much scripture in my heart to keep me walking the straight and narrow path for me to ever go back to the old ways; and I intend to keep plugging away at it so that it may continually remind me of what I once was and who I am now in Christ.
I understand also what it says in 1 Corinthians 10:12...so I remain on my guard. The very next verse tells me that I don't ever have to give in to temptation.
And I also hold on to promises that tell me that I don't have to fall (such as Romans 8:12-13, Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, and 1 John 2:10).
I have the victory through faith in Jesus (1 Corinthians 15:57).
This may be an encouragement to someone. I hope that it will be.
For, it pays to be transparent, walking in the light as He is in the light (1 John 1:7).
Thanks for sharing your story and scripture. I will share some of my story. I was raised in a mainline church including 6 years MS Lutheran grade school. In my high school years I was exposed to fundamental Christianity through my brother and his wife and also the Jesus Movement of the time and Baptist friends that had shared with me throughout jr high. I committed my life to Christ, much to my mother's dismay. She had sent me to Lutheran school to"learn manors, morals, and phonics'. I once heard her say that, I think to her brother on the phone.
Throughout college years and beyond I was active in Christian ministry on campus and in local churches-radio show, teaching Sunday School, Nurses Christian Fellowship, I married and had 3 children. Supported husband in grad school. After our move for his PhD program, I finally was back on the East coast closer to family-but my mom had already passed, and my brother moved south after retirement...and then husband proved unfaithful. Counseling was tried to no avail, and eventual divorce years later with no financial support. Homeless for a time-then public housing as I was now on disability. After divorce was final I tried dating, but found it unrewarding-men less desirable than my cheating ex.
I had maintained my church involvement, and even sense a call to ministry-I had told my husband prior to going on a retreat that I wanted him to go on with me. I thought it would help heal our marriage, and had arraigned his mom to come in town and stay with the kids. But he turned it down-Said I was wrong about my call because he was not called to be spouse of minister and we had never discussed that before getting married. Mom said He was not home much that weekend,(had a lot of time with other woman). He could grow and change to a new vocation, I could not.
So through years of spiritual direction and prayer, one day, while washing dishes...Lord why is there no loving faithful man for me? I kind of hear "would you accept a woman?" My mind immediately goes to my childhood friend that I had told "we are 12 now and I am going into 7th grade, it is time to grow up and start paying attention to boys." As a child I had seen my natural preference as a lack of maturity, and my Christian faith and society had reinforced that belief. I had never understood growing up into relationship with women as an option or possible. I had loved my husband, but I had been in denial of my true self. That total repression of self broke that day, and I confessed that rejection of self to a loving God. I had rejected the person he had created and tried all my life to live into a false image.
So this is where I find myself, continuing my walk in true relationship with a loving God. One day at a time. I will never be straight again, I would have to walk out of relationship with my Lord Jesus to do so.
Thanks for sharing your story and scripture. I will share some of my story. I was raised in a mainline church including 6 years MS Lutheran grade school. In my high school years I was exposed to fundamental Christianity through my brother and his wife and also the Jesus Movement of the time and Baptist friends that had shared with me throughout jr high. I committed my life to Christ, much to my mother's dismay. She had sent me to Lutheran school to"learn manors, morals, and phonics'. I once heard her say that, I think to her brother on the phone.
Throughout college years and beyond I was active in Christian ministry on campus and in local churches-radio show, teaching Sunday School, Nurses Christian Fellowship, I married and had 3 children. Supported husband in grad school. After our move for his PhD program, I finally was back on the East coast closer to family-but my mom had already passed, and my brother moved south after retirement...and then husband proved unfaithful. Counseling was tried to no avail, and eventual divorce years later with no financial support. Homeless for a time-then public housing as I was now on disability. After divorce was final I tried dating, but found it unrewarding-men less desirable than my cheating ex.
I had maintained my church involvement, and even sense a call to ministry-I had told my husband prior to going on a retreat that I wanted him to go on with me. I thought it would help heal our marriage, and had arraigned his mom to come in town and stay with the kids. But he turned it down-Said I was wrong about my call because he was not called to be spouse of minister and we had never discussed that before getting married. Mom said He was not home much that weekend,(had a lot of time with other woman). He could grow and change to a new vocation, I could not.
So through years of spiritual direction and prayer, one day, while washing dishes...Lord why is there no loving faithful man for me? I kind of hear "would you accept a woman?" My mind immediately goes to my childhood friend that I had told "we are 12 now and I am going into 7th grade, it is time to grow up and start paying attention to boys." As a child I had seen my natural preference as a lack of maturity, and my Christian faith and society had reinforced that belief. I had never understood growing up into relationship with women as an option or possible. I had loved my husband, but I had been in denial of my true self. That total repression of self broke that day, and I confessed that rejection of self to a loving God. I had rejected the person he had created and tried all my life to live into a false image.
So this is where I find myself, continuing my walk in true relationship with a loving God. One day at a time. I will never be straight again, I would have to walk out of relationship with my Lord Jesus to do so.
Thank you for showing the courage to share your journey of faith.
I think you’re doing a good job of uncovering the true purpose of this thread and the underlying anti-biblical-Christianity bias being promoted by moderators on a Christianity forum. Very revealing.
Notwithstanding all the mental and verbal gyrations, there are really only two perspectives on this issue:
1. I accept the Bible as the authoritative word of God. As such, I accept the clear biblical teachings and don’t regard myself as free to pick and choose those I personally find appealing or acceptable. Homosexuality is a sin that God will deal with as he chooses. I will neither promote nor celebrate homosexuality or pretend it isn’t a sin.
2. I don’t accept the Bible as the authoritative word of God. I either regard it as having no authoritative weight at all or as having only such weight as I personally choose to give it. I reject the biblical condemnation of homosexuality and may practice, tolerate, promote or celebrate it as I choose.
Category 1 includes mainstream biblical Christians, whether Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant or non-affiliated.
Category 2 may include everything from atheists who detest Christianity and religion in general to people who claim to be devout Christians but nevertheless hold the position described in category 2.
As with many issues where clear biblical teachings conflict with modern notions of morality, there is no middle ground. Certainly, there are foaming-at-the-mouth extremists and more moderate voices in both categories, but there is no middle ground between the two categories.
Efforts to create a middle ground – for example, by “creative” reinterpretation of the clear biblical teachings – are doomed to failure. They will not persuade anyone in category 1. They will only appeal to those in category 2 who are seeking to excuse their unbiblical versions of Christianity.
Ironically, this watering down of biblical Christianity is precisely what the Bible says will characterize believers in the end times. They will not endure sound doctrine but will seek teachers who tickle their ears with unbiblical teachings that appeal to their lusts. (2 Timothy 4:3). It’s really quite uncanny. It might give me pause even if I were in category 2.
Christianity is grounded in the Bible. There is really no such thing as "non-biblical Christianity." The only Jesus we know about is the one in the Bible. There is no such person as a "non-biblical Jesus." Biblical Christianity is either true or it isn’t. If you believe it isn’t, you are in category 2 and are welcome to hold whatever views on homosexuality you wish to hold. If you're in category 1, you have no options.
If the Supreme Being were an endlessly tolerant, entirely non-judgmental, wholly-accepting-of-everyone-and-everything Daddy in the Sky, that might appeal to many people including me. But that isn’t the God of Christianity. The question isn’t “Can I worship a God who condemns homosexuality and lots other things that don’t seem that bad to me?” The question, which has eternal consequences, is “Is Christianity true?”
It’s as simple as that. All else is just blather that fails to acknowledge the reality I've described.
Thanks for sharing your story and scripture. I will share some of my story. I was raised in a mainline church including 6 years MS Lutheran grade school. In my high school years I was exposed to fundamental Christianity through my brother and his wife and also the Jesus Movement of the time and Baptist friends that had shared with me throughout jr high. I committed my life to Christ, much to my mother's dismay. She had sent me to Lutheran school to"learn manors, morals, and phonics'. I once heard her say that, I think to her brother on the phone.
Throughout college years and beyond I was active in Christian ministry on campus and in local churches-radio show, teaching Sunday School, Nurses Christian Fellowship, I married and had 3 children. Supported husband in grad school. After our move for his PhD program, I finally was back on the East coast closer to family-but my mom had already passed, and my brother moved south after retirement...and then husband proved unfaithful. Counseling was tried to no avail, and eventual divorce years later with no financial support. Homeless for a time-then public housing as I was now on disability. After divorce was final I tried dating, but found it unrewarding-men less desirable than my cheating ex.
I had maintained my church involvement, and even sense a call to ministry-I had told my husband prior to going on a retreat that I wanted him to go on with me. I thought it would help heal our marriage, and had arraigned his mom to come in town and stay with the kids. But he turned it down-Said I was wrong about my call because he was not called to be spouse of minister and we had never discussed that before getting married. Mom said He was not home much that weekend,(had a lot of time with other woman). He could grow and change to a new vocation, I could not.
So through years of spiritual direction and prayer, one day, while washing dishes...Lord why is there no loving faithful man for me? I kind of hear "would you accept a woman?" My mind immediately goes to my childhood friend that I had told "we are 12 now and I am going into 7th grade, it is time to grow up and start paying attention to boys." As a child I had seen my natural preference as a lack of maturity, and my Christian faith and society had reinforced that belief. I had never understood growing up into relationship with women as an option or possible. I had loved my husband, but I had been in denial of my true self. That total repression of self broke that day, and I confessed that rejection of self to a loving God. I had rejected the person he had created and tried all my life to live into a false image.
So this is where I find myself, continuing my walk in true relationship with a loving God. One day at a time. I will never be straight again, I would have to walk out of relationship with my Lord Jesus to do so.
In my experience, voices in the mind are not to be trusted.
They will often say right things in the beginning in order to gain your trust; but then later on they will try to get you to do the wrong thing.
Apparently with you they started out with the wrong thing; and somehow those demons convinced you that they were the voice of the Lord?
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