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I have made a schematic diagram showing that Mary, wife of Cleofas, has a sister by the name Mary, mother of Jesus. Therefore, Mary, the wife of Cleofas, is the aunt of Jesus. The spirit of Ama said that during that time, Mary was used to have faith in Mary, like Jose Maria Sison.
I have made a schematic diagram showing that Mary, wife of Cleofas, has a sister by the name Mary, mother of Jesus. Therefore, Mary, the wife of Cleofas, is the aunt of Jesus. The spirit of Ama said that during that time, Mary was used to have faith in Mary, like Jose Maria Sison.
And you are entitled, to accept any biblically unsupported belief that you choose to, but the fact remains that the Holy Scriptures reveal that there were only two women by the name Mary at the cross, the burial, or the empty tomb of Jesus, and they were Mary the mother of Jesus, Joseph, and James the younger, the brother of Jesus and the first to sit on the episcopal throne of the church of the circumcision in Jerusalem, who was sired by Alpheaus, who is also called Cleophas.
And you are entitled, to accept any biblically unsupported belief that you choose to, but the fact remains that the Holy Scriptures reveal that there were only two women by the name Mary at the cross, the burial, or the empty tomb of Jesus, and they were Mary the mother of Jesus, Joseph, and James the younger, the brother of Jesus and the first to sit on the episcopal throne of the church of the circumcision in Jerusalem, who was sired by Alpheaus, who is also called Cleophas.
You also get to believe an unsupported view. Is the rest of your book as erroneous?
You also get to believe an unsupported view. Is the rest of your book as erroneous?
And where are my views of the truths recorded in scripture unsupported by the bible?
Can you name one gospel that reveals more than two women by the name Mary at the cross, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus.
Remembering that punctuation wasn't introduced into the bible by those who had been deceived into believing the false teaching of some supposed virgin birth, until the 15th century, a century or more before they finally kicked the old lying Clement out of their community of saints.
Down to the 17th century Clement the bishop of Alexandria was venerated as a saint. His name was to be found in the Martyrologies, and his feast fell on December 4. But when the Roman Martyrology was revised by Clement VIII (Pope from 1592 to 1605), his name was dropped from the calendar on the advice of his confessor, Cardinal Baronius. Pope Benedict XIV in 1748 maintained his predecessor's decision on the grounds that Clements life was little-known; that he had never obtained public cultus in the Church; and that some of his doctrines were, if not erroneous, at least highly suspect.
"ERRONEOUS--HIGHLY SUSPECT," they certainly got that right, but by then the false teaching of the so-called virgin birth had become firmly entrenched in the minds of the gullible.
This was Clemet the bishop of Alexandria, who wrote: “It would be ridiculous to imagine that the redeemer, in order to exist, had the usual needs of man. He only took food and ate it in order that we should not teach about him in a Docetic fashion.†Satan must have had some trouble trying to tempt this false Jesus of theirs (Who had no need of food) into turning stones into bread.
Their Jesus was not the Jesus as taught by the apostles, but that other Jesus, taught by the Anti-Christ, who unlike we mere HUMAN BEINGS, did not need to eat, drink, or go to the toilet, as was taught by one of the great teachers that the authorities of Emperor Constantine’s universal church, used as one of their authorities when trying to defend their false doctrines.
Saint Clement of Alexandria, who was a saint in the Martyrology of the Roman universal church, in support of the great lie, speaks of the time that some imaginary midwife, who was supposed to be at the birth of Jesus, (Non-biblical) told some woman by the name Salome, that the mother was still a virgin after the birth and that her hymen was still intact, and that this supposed Salome, stuck her finger into the mother’s vagina to check, and her hand immediately withered up, but the baby Jesus reached out and touched her hand and healed it. (All unsupported by scripture)
I wonder if those who call themselves Christians today, believe that the baby Jesus, was able to miraculously pass through his mother's hymen without breaking it? Well, I suppose if they believe the lie that he was born of an ever virgin, they will believe anything.
John 19:25
Therefore the soldiers did these things. But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
If you take out the punctuation it reads that there were three women, not two or four?
But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother and his mother's sister Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalend.
John 19:25
Therefore the soldiers did these things. But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
If you take out the punctuation it reads that there were three women, not two or four?
But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother and his mother's sister Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalend.
Let me here repeat for those who lack the ability to comprehend what has already been explained in this thread.
The Evangelists wrote in Greek rather than in Hebrew...at that time only the capital letters of the Greek alphabet were used in writing, without diacritics, punctuation, or separation between words. Lower case letters appeared only in the ninth century, together with spacing between words. Punctuation marks were introduced only with the invention of the printing press in the 15th century. The present separations of chapters was introduced by Cardinal Hugo in the 13th century.
“WOMANWITHOUTHERMANISNOTHING.” Doesn’t make much sense, does it? Let us now separate the words. “Woman without her man is nothing,” that seems better doesn’t it? But without punctuation, what is being said here? “Woman without her man, (Comma) is nothing;” or “Woman! (Exclamation mark) Without her, (Comma) man is nothing.”
How many biblical truths have been hidden by using the wrong punctuation.
But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, (Comma) and his mother's sister, (Comma) Mary the wife of Cleophas, (Comma) and Mary Magdalene. This is Incorrect as it makes it appear that four women are being mentioned.
But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, (Comma) Mary the wife of Cleopas and Mary Magdalene. This is Correct. As we shall later see, only two women by the name MARY, were at the cross, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus, and they are Mary the mother of Jesus and her sister-in-law, (COMMA/WHO ARE) Mary the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene the sister of Cleophas.
According to the subject Guide in Young's Analytical Concordance of the Bible, Alpheaus and Cleophas the husband of Mary are one and the same person. Cleophas, the masculine of Cleopatra, is the Greek for [Of a renowned Father] while the name Alpheaus, the Father of James the younger, who is the brother of Jesus, is the Aramaic for [Of a Renowned Father]. Heli=Alexander Helios, the grand Father of Jesus was a father of renown.
If the punctuation in John 19; 25; that was added in the 15th century by those gullible members of the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, who believe in the false teaching of some supposed birth of an immortal god, from the womb of an ever virgin, is correct, then we should see the other three gospel verifying that rubbish, but alas, we don't.
Luke 24: 10; does not name the women at the cross of Jesus, nor does he name the women at the burial of Jesus, but he does name the two women by the name “Mary,” who went to the empty tomb on Sunday morning and they were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James (The brother of the Lord)
Mark 15: 40; mentions the name of the two women at the cross of Jesus, by the name Mary, as Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James the younger, who was sired by Alpheaus, who is also called Cleophas. who was born of the same womb as Jesus and Joseph.
Mark 15: 47; Then goes on to say, that the two women by the name Mary, who watched the burial of Jesus, were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joseph, the second son of Mary who was sired by Joseph the son of Jacob, the first husband of Mary.
Then at the empty tomb, Mark 16: 1; identifies the two women by the name Mary at the empty tomb of Jesus, as, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James the younger, whose father was Alphaeus, who is also called ‘Cleophas.’
Matthew 27: 56 reveals the names of two of the women at the cross of Jesus of the name 'MARY' and they are, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, two of the three biological sons of Mary.
Then in 27: 61; Matthew identifies the two women who witnessed the burial of Jesus, as Mary Magdalene and the “OTHER” Mary. By saying the “OTHER” Mary, he reveals that there are only two women present by the name Mary, not three or more, but only two, and that the “OTHER” Mary he is referring to is Mary the mother of James and Joseph, who he already stated was at his cross.
Matthew reinforces this by stating that at the empty tomb of Jesus, the only two women present by the name Mary, were Mary Magdalene and the “OTHER” Mary, who we know from Matthew 27: 56; to be Mary the biological mother of Jesus, Joseph and James the younger.
Revealing that the punctuation introduced into John 19: 25; in the 15th century, which makes it appear that there are three or four women at the cross of Jesus by the name MARY, is an erroneous addition and should now read, "But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, (Comma) Mary the wife of Cleopas and Mary Magdalene." This is Correct. As we have now seen, only two women by the name MARY, were at the cross, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus, and they are Mary the mother of Jesus and her sister-in-law, (COMMA/WHO ARE) Mary the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene, her close relative.
So, what you are saying is that Mary Magdalene is the sister of Jesus' mother from what you have written. Yet, in the same breath, you are also saying that Mary Magdalene is Jesus' mother's sister-in-law or his Aunt/a close relative?
Thanks for the explanation and for putting in the punctuation - it couldn't be any more convoluted if you tried.
Try this: But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother and his mother's sister (Mary the wife of Clopas) and Mary Magdalene.
Try this: But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, (Comma) and his mother's sister (WHO ARE) Mary the wife of Cleophas, (Comma) and Mary Magdalene.
John agrees with Matthew, who said that the only 'OTHER' woman by the name Mary, who was at the burial, and empty tomb of Jesus, was the only 'OTHER" woman by the name Mary, who was at the cross of Jesus, who Matthew reveals as Mary the mother of Jesus, Joseph and James the younger.
And you think that the word 'sister' when written in the NT, means "Born of the same womb, Do you?
The women who believed in Jesus, were referred to as 'sisters in the faith.'
Romans 16: 1; I commend to you our SISTER Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae.
Jesus referred to those who do the will of the heavenly Father as his brothers and sisters; Matthew 12: 50; "The same is my brother and sister, etc."
And who was the sister that 2 John:13, was referring too?
Mary Magdalene, the sister to Mary the wife of Cleophas, who was the mother of Jesus, could have been a close relative such as her sister in law, her daughter-in-law, or her sister in faith.
The first women to who the risen Jesus appeared at his empty tomb were his mother Mary, and Mary Magdalene, the first men that he appeared to, was Cleophas and his son Simeon, who succeeded to the episcopal throne of the church of the circumcision in Jerusalem, after James the brother of Jesus, was killed by the same Sadducee sect that had his brother Jesus murdered.
I see you brought up a post that I had deleted, but what I don't understand is why you continue to add in punctuation? If you continue to move the punctuation around, you can make it say anything you want.
And, where does it say that the Mother of Jesus had two husbands?
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