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Old 08-05-2019, 10:04 PM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Many here absolutely refuse what Jesus has said. They feel His decrees are oppressive and abusive.
NONSENCE!

There are some of us here who refuse what some people here think Jesus has said!

If I be lifted up, I will draw/ drag off in power/ impel ALL unto Me

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Old 08-05-2019, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That verse is a Hebraic idiom about greed...
Does that mean the elderly should NOT sign over their social security deposits for fear of death or pay for fire insurance?
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Repent or turn away from our sin and place our faith in Jesus are two actions that gives us hope of eternal salvation. But what does it mean to place our faith in Christ? Many here absolutely refuse what Jesus has said. They feel His decrees are oppressive and abusive. So, they have convinced themselves that the Bible is wrong or corrupted. Many have NOT repented and placed their faith in a made up god.

Gehenna was a garbage dump. It is where they put trash that had no value. It was rotting and stinking of death. People need to wake up and stop their nonsense or they will end up in the trash pit, hell.
Are you going to fan the flames of your non-existed hellhole?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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Are you going to fan the flames of your non-existed hellhole?
I find since the Bible's hell is simply mankind's temporary grave, so that means the grave does exist.
Religious-myth hell teaches a hell hole of burning forever.
Whereas, the Bible's hell is mankind's stone-cold grave until Resurrection Day.
Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness.
Since the dead know nothing but sleep, then there is No pain in death.
This is why Jesus teaches ' sleep ' in death as per John 11:11-14.
Jesus learned that unconscious conditions about the sleeping dead from the old Hebrew Scriptures:
Such verses as found at Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Isaiah 38:18 and Ecclesiastes 9:5.
So, biblical hell ( grave ) does exist, but the ones ' fanning the flames ' are teaching that religious-myth hell.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:08 PM
 
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[quote=Matthew 4:4;55868159]I find since the Bible's hell is simply mankind's temporary grave, so that means the grave does exist.
Religious-myth hell teaches a hell hole of burning forever.
Whereas, the Bible's hell is mankind's stone-cold grave until Resurrection Day.
Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness.
Since the dead know nothing but sleep, then there is No pain in death.
This is why Jesus teaches ' sleep ' in death as per John 11:11-14.
Jesus learned that unconscious conditions about the sleeping dead from the old Hebrew Scriptures:
Such verses as found at Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Isaiah 38:18 and Ecclesiastes 9:5.
So, biblical hell ( grave ) does exist, but the ones ' fanning the flames ' are teaching that religious-myth hell.


Oh my goodness. I looked up a few of these verses to see if they support your argument. Wow. You could not be more wrong. You don’t seem to be even trying to be clever
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I find since the Bible's hell is simply mankind's temporary grave, so that means the grave does exist.
Religious-myth hell teaches a hell hole of burning forever.
Whereas, the Bible's hell is mankind's stone-cold grave until Resurrection Day.
Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness.
Since the dead know nothing but sleep, then there is No pain in death.
This is why Jesus teaches ' sleep ' in death as per John 11:11-14.
Jesus learned that unconscious conditions about the sleeping dead from the old Hebrew Scriptures:
Such verses as found at Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Isaiah 38:18 and Ecclesiastes 9:5.
So, biblical hell ( grave ) does exist, but the ones ' fanning the flames ' are teaching that religious-myth hell.
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Oh my goodness. I looked up a few of these verses to see if they support your argument. Wow. You could not be more wrong. You don’t seem to be even trying to be clever
Then, you would have reading comprehension problems or you may be blind.
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Repent or turn away from our sin and place our faith in Jesus are two actions that gives us hope of eternal salvation. But what does it mean to place our faith in Christ? Many here absolutely refuse what Jesus has said. They feel His decrees are oppressive and abusive. So, they have convinced themselves that the Bible is wrong or corrupted. Many have NOT repented and placed their faith in a made up god.

Gehenna was a garbage dump. It is where they put trash that had no value. It was rotting and stinking of death. People need to wake up and stop their nonsense or they will end up in the trash pit, hell.

Garbage dumps are usually not used to torture people therein, since you know about the original meaning of Gehenna, how do you still insist it symbolizes a fiery netherworld?
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Garbage dumps are usually not used to torture people therein, since you know about the original meaning of Gehenna, how do you still insist it symbolizes a fiery netherworld?
Because that is what he was taught to say, and he isn't bright enough to change his opinion with new evidence?
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Garbage dumps are usually not used to torture people therein, since you know about the original meaning of Gehenna, how do you still insist it symbolizes a fiery netherworld?
Jesus was referring to a fire that never goes out.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Gehenna.html
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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[quote=svenM;55870750]Garbage dumps are usually not used to torture people therein, since you know about the original meaning of Gehenna, how do you still insist it symbolizes a fiery netherworld?[


In this instance Jesus uses imagery to describe hell. Jesus talks about hell as eternal in Matthew as another description of hell. Both are true. We all know this. Yet using a particular part twisting a false conclusion to support your ideology is another form of lying. Do you not see this? Has your soul been so corrupted you no longer hear that voice when you lie?

You all are in extreme danger. You must realize this before its too late
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