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Evangelical male leaders are calling on female preachers to sit down and shut up. But Beth Moore insists that women are also called to be evangelists.
Faced with increasingly heated vitriol from men who think women should keep silent in church, a popular evangelical Christian writer is digging in and affirming her calling as an evangelist.
Beth Moore has been criticized for teaching in front of mixed-gender audiences ― pushing the boundaries of what’s acceptable in her conservative denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention.
Evangelical male leaders are calling on female preachers to sit down and shut up. But Beth Moore insists that women are also called to be evangelists.
Faced with increasingly heated vitriol from men who think women should keep silent in church, a popular evangelical Christian writer is digging in and affirming her calling as an evangelist.
Beth Moore has been criticized for teaching in front of mixed-gender audiences ― pushing the boundaries of what’s acceptable in her conservative denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention.
It's interesting that one of her critics implies that teaching gives women power over men. Jesus washed the feet of his disciples and died for them--showing us that the conventional ideas of power do not hold in the kingdom. The last shall be first. That reveals a fundamental problem with how male preachers view their role--as one of power.
Both the Old and New Testaments mention prophetesses ~ women prophets.
Old Testament:
Huldah ~ 2 Kings 22:14
Miriam, sister of Moses and Aaron ~ Exodus 15:20
Deborah the warrior ~ Judges 4:4. She was the judge of Israel at the time.
Noadiah ~ Nehemiah 6:14
New Testament:
Luke 2:36 ~ mentions the prophetess Anna.
Acts 21:9 ~ Philip the evangelist had four unnamed (in the verse) virgin daughters who were prophetesses.
Despite Paul's statement to Timothy in 1 Timothy 2:12 about him not allowing women to teach, in 1 Corinthians 11:5 Paul presupposes that women could prophesy, saying only that they should not do so with their heads uncovered.
It's interesting that one of her critics implies that teaching gives women power over men. Jesus washed the feet of his disciples and died for them--showing us that the conventional ideas of power do not hold in the kingdom. The last shall be first. That reveals a fundamental problem with how male preachers view their role--as one of power.
Mary Magdalene who (according to the four canonical gospels) traveled with Jesus as one of his followers, and was an eye witness to his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection which upset Peter himself with his male dominance mentality and attitude - was more than a disciple. It was she who had a close relationship with Jesus Christ, while Peter denied him three times. Although it was the Western Christian Church (not the Eastern) that portrayed her as a repentant sinner for centuries, there is newer research that has disputed this interpretation, and the discovery of the Gnostic Gospels, including the Gospel of Mary, describes Mary as a reflective, wise spiritual woman favored by Jesus. I believe it was she that rested her head on the bosom or chest of Christ Jesus, and who is the beloved disciple, possibly even an important earlier teacher or Apostle.
Mary Magdalene who (according to the four canonical gospels) traveled with Jesus as one of his followers, and was an eye witness to his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection which upset Peter himself with his male dominance mentality and attitude - was more than a disciple. It was she who had a close relationship with Jesus Christ, while Peter denied him three times. Although it was the Western Christian Church (not the Eastern) that portrayed her as a repentant sinner for centuries, there is newer research that has disputed this interpretation, and the discovery of the Gnostic Gospels, including the Gospel of Mary, describes Mary as a reflective, wise spiritual woman favored by Jesus. I believe it was she that rested her head on the bosom or chest of Christ Jesus, and who is the beloved disciple, possibly even an important earlier teacher or Apostle.
I think it is a bit sad that we'd be excluded and have our rights reduced by some of our fellow Christians.
What is even more shocking is that we women are a majority of Christians and yet face this by some of our fellow Christians. This shouldn't be done to anyone, but certainly the majority shouldn't accept this.
Women are more likely to be religious around the world than men.
Women are more likely to be religious in the US.
Even in the past, women were significantly more likely to be official church members than men.
It's interesting that one of her critics implies that teaching gives women power over men. Jesus washed the feet of his disciples and died for them--showing us that the conventional ideas of power do not hold in the kingdom. The last shall be first. That reveals a fundamental problem with how male preachers view their role--as one of power.
SERIOUSLY ASTUTE OBSERVATION! "fundamental problem" is the correct word.
Mary Magdalene who (according to the four canonical gospels) traveled with Jesus as one of his followers, and was an eye witness to his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection which upset Peter himself with his male dominance mentality and attitude - was more than a disciple. It was she who had a close relationship with Jesus Christ, while Peter denied him three times. Although it was the Western Christian Church (not the Eastern) that portrayed her as a repentant sinner for centuries, there is newer research that has disputed this interpretation, and the discovery of the Gnostic Gospels, including the Gospel of Mary, describes Mary as a reflective, wise spiritual woman favored by Jesus. I believe it was she that rested her head on the bosom or chest of Christ Jesus, and who is the beloved disciple, possibly even an important earlier teacher or Apostle.
I just finished reading The Gospel of Mary Magdalene by Jean Yves Le Loup, as part of my journey through the early Christian writings! It does remind me of this Beth Moore situation and the guy who said "Go home." That's kind of how Mary is treated in this gospel, except Levi comes to her defense.
It's fascinating, albeit frustrating when Mary is talking about her conversation with the Savior in a vision and the text continues with "..." just before the important points because of all the missing pages! It's like a Zen riddle: What is the secret of enlightenment: "..."
And there are many who believe the 'seven demons' she was healed from correspond to the seven "powers" that the soul is freed from in the Mary text, which is an interesting way of looking at it.
I've gotten through a few of the so-called 'gnostic' texts and I've yet to see the strange cosmology they are known for. No Demi-urge, Barbello, inherent evil of the created world, and all that. I haven't read them all yet but...I do think some are no longer being seen as technically gnostic---like Thomas.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
SERIOUSLY ASTUTE OBSERVATION! "fundamental problem" is the correct word.
Not sure I'd really call Macarthur an "evangelist". He's a pastor, and has been in ministry for over 50 years. He's not some traveling evangelists, or a televangelist. Second, this was part of a panel discussion. He made the statement, then went on for a few minutes and elaborated. The host had asked for a VERY short response, so he jokingly made a statement that is often used in jokes.
Having said all that, yes. We tend to believe the Bible when it says women should not teach or hold authority over men. Again, the argument is with Scripture, not Christians.
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