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Try to keep up with the program, Kjw47 - although your jw origination's collective consciousness was only hatched barely 100 years ago, be assured Jesus has already been in possession of 'all authority over heaven and earth' for well over 2000 years - you have A LOT to catch-up on!
The kingdom is the church that Christ established on the first Pentecost after His resurrection. Read the verse again, he said he was IN the kingdom. Can't be in something that doesn't exist. The vision he had was not every single word in the book, some was literal, some was the apocryphal vision writings.
Matt 28:18 Jesus said ALL AUTHORITY is His, that is Christ taking up the rule over His kingdom. There are plenty more passages that clarify this. Nothing changes this fact.
Jesus was not yet King sir, you are correct to a degree however, after the outpouring of holy spirit, citizens were being gathered for that Kingdom. Jesus gave signs to show his disciples when he would be enthroned as King in Mat 24. When he was to take the crown, within one generation the Kingdom would come, as you can see, the governments are still here, so Jesus has not returned to remove them yet.
Yes, all the errors brought in centuries before had to be corrected. Gods truth had to return here in these last days( Daniel 12:4)
The religion that came out of Rome messed it all up. No branch that broke off of her has corrected the errors.
So your organization is claiming that Jesus's church failed, that the gates of hades has overcome it, even though Jesus promised the opposite at Matthew 16:18, and that Jesus is no longer with His body, the church ?? Can you show me where He took back the keys, given at Matthew 16:19 ??
Jesus was not yet King sir, you are correct to a degree however, after the outpouring of holy spirit, citizens were being gathered for that Kingdom. Jesus gave signs to show his disciples when he would be enthroned as King in Mat 24. When he was to take the crown, within one generation the Kingdom would come, as you can see, the governments are still here, so Jesus has not returned to remove them yet.
Col. 1:13 For He delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son.
Notice the tense of the word "transferred " that is past tense, not future tense.
This is just like John when he wrote Revelation, he said he was in the kingdom, all Christians are in the only kingdom Jesus ever talked about establishing , He will return to collect it and take it to heaven and that is the end of all this earth.
Eph. 1:22 He put ALL THINGS in subjection under His feet and gave Him as head over all things to the church.....that is the very definition of a King! Having all power/authority.
John preached the "kingdom is near," not thousands of years off.
So your organization is claiming that Jesus's church failed, that the gates of hades has overcome it, even though Jesus promised the opposite at Matthew 16:18, and that Jesus is no longer with His body, the church ?? Can you show me where He took back the keys, given at Matthew 16:19 ??
I believe the verse about the keys is misunderstood. It was not giving anyone, let alone Simon, permission to "loose" whatever we wish to "loose" as the Catholic Church interprets it. Given my understanding of how He saves us, He was telling us that because He will remove our separation from God and take us all into Heaven with Him when He dies and is "born again" as the Holy Spirit, whatever we do on earth will also be done in Heaven (where our consciousness (Spirit) actually resides with Jesus).
There are bound to be spiritual consequences for what we do while we abide with Him in Heaven (the spacetime field), so we should take special care to act by the guidance of the Holy Spirit of His agape love (Comforter) and be righteous. The lake of fire is reserved to cleanse the many and diverse human Spirits among us who don't. Since some of us do some pretty horrendous things, I suspect the cleansing will not be a very pleasant experience.
So your organization is claiming that Jesus's church failed, that the gates of hades has overcome it, even though Jesus promised the opposite at Matthew 16:18, and that Jesus is no longer with His body, the church ?? Can you show me where He took back the keys, given at Matthew 16:19 ??
No it is standing right now. Many in history saw the religion that came out of Rome and all her branches got very confused. But they failed to correct many error teachings in place. Here in these last days truth becomes abundant. Dont forget, they murdered Jesus and most of his apostles, then the followers. Because the world hates truth. Satan beat most living today, centuries ago. Few look. I show them what Jesus actually teaches, in every translation on earth, they refuse to believe him.
No it is standing right now. Many in history saw the religion that came out of Rome and all her branches got very confused. But they failed to correct many error teachings in place. Here in these last days truth becomes abundant. Dont forget, they murdered Jesus and most of his apostles, then the followers. Because the world hates truth. Satan beat most living today, centuries ago. Few look. I show them what Jesus actually teaches, in every translation on earth, they refuse to believe him.
Care to elaborate, where in the historical Church Fathers writings, all the way back to Clement of Rome, who lived and died still in the first century? They are all easily accessible online - www.newadvent.org/fathers/
Col. 1:13 For He delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son.
Notice the tense of the word "transferred " that is past tense, not future tense.
This is just like John when he wrote Revelation, he said he was in the kingdom, all Christians are in the only kingdom Jesus ever talked about establishing , He will return to collect it and take it to heaven and that is the end of all this earth.
Eph. 1:22 He put ALL THINGS in subjection under His feet and gave Him as head over all things to the church.....that is the very definition of a King! Having all power/authority.
John preached the "kingdom is near," not thousands of years off.
Wow Dan, the Kingdom sure didn't turn out to be what the Bible promised huh? I guess the real truth is that one of us doesn't.
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