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Your problem, Charlie, is that you are waiting for Jesus to return but He is already here with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts." You keep looking in the wrong place for the Truth and you ignore Jesus completely. You will regret that error, Charlie.
What you call threats of damnation were just warnings to our ignorant savage ancestors using the only thing they would be afraid of to motivate them from their savagery to agape love and repentance. You should be beyond any need for such savage motivation, Charlie.
Sounds like I'm just one messed up fellow. Maybe I need to give up reading the scripture and forget everything I've learned. Would that be a good start, Doc?
Sounds like I'm just one messed up fellow. Maybe I need to give up reading the scripture and forget everything I've learned. Would that be a good start, Doc?
Don't do that, Charlie, just TEST the writings to make sure they ARE scripture from God or Jesus using God's Holy Spirit of agape love as your filter for the Truth. That should be enough. It will correct all your misconceptions about God and Jesus. You will interpret the verses differently under the more accurate context of a loving God. I have faith in you, Charlie. You can do it.
Don't do that, Charlie, just TEST the writings to make sure they ARE scripture from God or Jesus using God's Holy Spirit of agape love as your filter for the Truth. That should be enough. It will correct all your misconceptions about God and Jesus. You will interpret the verses differently under the more accurate context of a loving God. I have faith in you, Charlie. You can do it.
Don't do that, Charlie, just TEST the writings to make sure they ARE scripture from God or Jesus using God's Holy Spirit of agape love as your filter for the Truth. That should be enough. It will correct all your misconceptions about God and Jesus. You will interpret the verses differently under the more accurate context of a loving God. I have faith in you, Charlie. You can do it.
Enlightening... sounds similar to what the serpent told Adam and Eve.
Don't you know what pleases God? Or are you even interested in that?
Actually, that is all I am interested in, definitely not what men have decided God wants us to know about Jesus in the "precepts and doctrines of men." That is why I follow His Son and use His revelations and unambiguous demonstration of God's Holy Spirit of agape love as my guide to the Truth. You really should try it.
Actually, that is all I am interested in, definitely not what men have decided God wants us to know about Jesus in the "precepts and doctrines of men." That is why I follow His Son and use His revelations and unambiguous demonstration of God's Holy Spirit of agape love as my guide to the Truth. You really should try it.
I'm pretty sure Rob is not interested in apostasy!
A Mormon bishop did pretty much the same thing back in 2013 and got pretty much the same response.
It's a mighty sad reflection on Christian love and compassion.
Yup, an Episcopal priest did it, too. It's an old trick, but it's probably always effective.
Wouldn't work in my church, I'm happy to say. We have a transient motel up the road from the church, where social services stashes people while they try to find them permanent housing. Every so often one of them wanders in, sometimes looking for food or a handout, and sometimes to actually stay for the service. One guy with obvious mental problems showed up pretty regularly. At first he stood by the door asking for specific amounts of money as parishioners approached. "Can you give me $60? I need to visit my aunt in Asbury Park."
But he was invited in and to everyone's delight, he loved to sing and had a great voice. We kept gift cards to supermarkets to give to people who asked for food money and gave him some, but the deacon got in touch with this guy's social worker, who told us to stop doing that because he was trading the gift cards to women for sexual favors.
He seemed to enjoy his time with us, and eventually, he was provided with permanent housing under some kind of supervision and we didn't see him again.
Another lady came in one day asked if we had any food. We told her we were having a potluck that week after the service and she was welcome to come. She stayed for the service and then came down and ate with us, and afterward we packaged up the leftover and somebody drove her back to the motel. She probably had enough to feed everybody there.
Doesn't mean my parish is superior to any others. We still have the same sort of gossip and backstabbing and snitty issues that other churches have. But we are pretty good with homeless people.
Yup, an Episcopal priest did it, too. It's an old trick, but it's probably always effective.
Wouldn't work in my church, I'm happy to say. We have a transient motel up the road from the church, where social services stashes people while they try to find them permanent housing. Every so often one of them wanders in, sometimes looking for food or a handout, and sometimes to actually stay for the service. One guy with obvious mental problems showed up pretty regularly. At first he stood by the door asking for specific amounts of money as parishioners approached. "Can you give me $60? I need to visit my aunt in Asbury Park."
But he was invited in and to everyone's delight, he loved to sing and had a great voice. We kept gift cards to supermarkets to give to people who asked for food money and gave him some, but the deacon got in touch with this guy's social worker, who told us to stop doing that because he was trading the gift cards to women for sexual favors.
He seemed to enjoy his time with us, and eventually, he was provided with permanent housing under some kind of supervision and we didn't see him again.
Another lady came in one day asked if we had any food. We told her we were having a potluck that week after the service and she was welcome to come. She stayed for the service and then came down and ate with us, and afterward we packaged up the leftover and somebody drove her back to the motel. She probably had enough to feed everybody there.
Doesn't mean my parish is superior to any others. We still have the same sort of gossip and backstabbing and snitty issues that other churches have. But we are pretty good with homeless people.
With the LDS Church, denominations are established along geographic boundaries. The congregation you're a part of is solely dependent upon where you live. If this were to happen in a poorer area, I suspect the homeless man would have been warmly welcomed. In a more affluent area, it would be a different matter entirely. That tells me something about I hadn't really thought about before. It's not so much about Christianity as it is about wealth. Of course, wealth shouldn't be an issue among those who truly claim to follow Christ. Unfortunately, though, it is.
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But we are pretty good with homeless people. 
