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Old 10-30-2021, 05:04 PM
 
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Yes, I agree

But I think what derails things is when things are taken out of context and what is preached by the religious is a salvation and kingdom for Christians only and all non-Christianity are to be either annihilated or infinitely tormented and consequently changing the gospel

Luk 2:10**And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luk 2:11**For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Luk 2:12**And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luk 2:13**And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14**Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
The gospel of Jesus is for ALL people, but not all will accept His offer of salvation.
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Old 10-30-2021, 05:07 PM
 
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The gospel of Jesus is for ALL people, but not all will accept His offer of salvation.
It is NOT an offer. It is a fait accompli! It is finished.
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Old 10-30-2021, 05:49 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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The gospel of Jesus is for ALL people, but not all will accept His offer of salvation.
Salvation from what? For whom?

Mat 1:21**And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Mat 1:22**Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Mat 1:23**Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

For me context is very important
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Old 10-30-2021, 06:11 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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It is NOT an offer. It is a fait accompli! It is finished.
It's an offer. The only thing that is finished is the redemptive work of Christ on the cross. That doesn't automatically save you. There's the matter of personally placing your faith in Jesus at which time you are credited with the perfect righteousness of Christ. That is when you are saved from the penalty of sin. That is the biblical teaching no matter how much you reject it.
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Old 10-30-2021, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's an offer. The only thing that is finished is the redemptive work of Christ on the cross. That doesn't automatically save you. There's the matter of personally placing your faith in Jesus at which time you are credited with the perfect righteousness of Christ. That is when you are saved from the penalty of sin. That is the biblical teaching no matter how much you reject it.


It's the faithfulness of the Christ that saves, lest any man should boast.
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Old 10-30-2021, 06:48 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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It's the faithfulness of the Christ that saves, lest any man should boast.
Jesus was faithful to carry out his mission. A person must still place his personal trust or faith in Christ to be saved.
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Old 10-30-2021, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I don't need negativity in my life, order for me to grow.
Actually, you do. Had you never experienced pain, disappointment, heartache, illness, etc., you'd go about your daily life not fully realizing how good you had it. Negative things in our life serve a purpose.
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Old 10-30-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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Luk 2:10**And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luk 2:11**For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Luk 2:12**And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luk 2:13**And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14**Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Anyone else of a certain age envisioning Linus reciting this on "A Charlie Brown Christmas"?
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Old 10-31-2021, 05:58 AM
 
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Count me in sis.
I can see if it was a free ride you would go
but since you have to earn it, does that count you out?
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Old 11-02-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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the truth is the word of God, even if MANY refuse to believe. demons are very REAL! the nasty things people do or say to others... are the result of being lead by wicked spirits! I'm sent to speak of a Peaceful and a Loving world that will soon come. to those who long for it, but NEVER thought it to be even possible. Jehovah God and Jesus didn't force anyone to believe them. so we who's "hiding in a building with no windows", can't make ANYONE believe. I as with ALL of my Spiritual Family isn't looking for or expect "utopia" to be handed" to us. it's your world, if you choose NOT to believe.

but we KNOW by Jesus words, what we must do to gain eternal life. in order to see this realistic world where there will be Peace and Love. that world is here on Earth ,(Matt. 5:5). where the wicked will be NO more, (Psa. 37:9-11 For evildoers shall be cut off; But those who wait on the Lord, They shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while and the wicked shall be no more; Indeed, you will look carefully for his place, But it shall be no more. But the meek shall inherit the earth, And shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace). God's word doesn't LIE! and by the way, do research!... MANY of our Places of worship, has "WINDOWS!" peace
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