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Thanks, MQ. It could be an interesting subject. That makes me wonder whether there is such a thing as a strictly written language. Can a language exist without being spoken but only written?
It does make sense that the first and oldest, the most primitive languages would be click languages.
Hmm. Your question just sparked a lively conversation with Linguist Daughter. Most languages are based on symbols for sounds or words or syllables, and it doesn't go the other way. There are about 6000 spoken languages on the planet, and only 200 of them have writing systems.
So the only thing she could think of were Con Langs, or constructed languages, like Klingon or Tolkien's languages that were first written, then spoken by fans of the fiction. There is a Con Lang called Blissymbols that was designed to be a universal written language, but it never caught on.
I leave these issues for theologians. It has zero impact on anyone's salvation, so an opinion is what were left with... and this is where we go astray and begin to judge.
If Christ is risen, nothing else matters. And if Christ is not risen-nothing else matters.
No, the term Contemplative Christianity is used for practices such as Centering Prayer, a type of Christian meditation wherein one invites the presence of God then sits in silence, letting thoughts go, not praying with words, not requesting anything, just sitting in silence. Don't read anything into the statement "the first language of God is silence" that wasn't meant by it. Obviously, it's not meant to be taken literally. It's a form of prayer, and invitation, waiting for God. No big revelation is expected, you just do your centering prayer session, alone or with others, then go about your day. I am not sure where you see judgment in that. No one is saying that's the only right way to do things.
I guess it's not that difference from the Quaker practice of sitting in silence for an hour, focusing on the Inner Light, as they do in their First Day services.
I can see where it is a radical thought to those who come out of the Christian worship traditions of yelling "Praise the Lord!" or babbling supposedly "in tongues" and rolling around on the floor "catchin' the Holy Ghost" and whatnot, or anything else in between those two extremes.
Genesis 16:15 ESV
And Hagar bore Abram a son,
and Abram called the name of his son,
whom Hagar bore, Ishmael.
in the above verse Abraham called the name of his son Ishmael
Ishmael was born before Isaac
that means Ishmael was the only son for Abraham
but here in this verse Isaac is only son for Abraham
Hebrews 11:17 ESV
By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac,
and he who had received the promises was in the act of offering up his only son,
Using the factoring out method, does it then follow that it doesn't matter if Christ is risen?
See here the thing... and I say this with all due respect, if the "quote" doesn't resonate then there's no point of explaining that which you do not see or refuse to see.
No, the term Contemplative Christianity is used for practices such as Centering Prayer, a type of Christian meditation wherein one invites the presence of God then sits in silence, letting thoughts go, not praying with words, not requesting anything, just sitting in silence. Don't read anything into the statement "the first language of God is silence" that wasn't meant by it. Obviously, it's not meant to be taken literally. It's a form of prayer, and invitation, waiting for God. No big revelation is expected, you just do your centering prayer session, alone or with others, then go about your day. I am not sure where you see judgment in that. No one is saying that's the only right way to do things.
I guess it's not that difference from the Quaker practice of sitting in silence for an hour, focusing on the Inner Light, as they do in their First Day services.
I can see where it is a radical thought to those who come out of the Christian worship traditions of yelling "Praise the Lord!" or babbling supposedly "in tongues" and rolling around on the floor "catchin' the Holy Ghost" and whatnot, or anything else in between those two extremes.
A good explanation, however... the dig at the end was necessary. Maybe unknowingly, but you just affirmed my point when I said
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and this is where we go astray and begin to judge.
See here the thing... and I say this with all due respect, if the "quote" doesn't resonate then there's no point of explaining that which you do not see or refuse to see.
Your condescension and contempt were so thickly veiled, I almost missed them
I get that logic and religion don't really mix well, but you're really not helping the cause by being this dismissive.
A good explanation, however... the dig at the end was necessary. Maybe unknowingly, but you just affirmed my point when I said
Ha, I definitely do judge that type of behavior, and I also know (and respect) some good people for whom that type of worship gets them where they want to go. I even went to a consecration of a Deaconess friend in a holy-roller-type church. The music was good!
I was always more of the quiet, go inward type.
I'll keep working on myself. I'm only 65. Maybe a few more years, I'll get that log-in-the-eye thinger down.
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