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Old 01-04-2024, 07:35 PM
 
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He did and any one can hear and see that in the film about Jesus
You believe everything you see in movies?
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Old 01-04-2024, 07:43 PM
 
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I do not follow Mohammad.

However I must ask, what Biblical sin was violated in marrying a 9yo girl?
I don't believe that what we refer to as 'pedophilia' today was even raised as an issue back in the day.
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Old 01-04-2024, 09:42 PM
 
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I don't believe that what we refer to as 'pedophilia' today was even raised as an issue back in the day.
That fact (among many others) reveals how benighted and primitive the morality in the Bible actually is and yet many would impose it on us today in the name of God. It is a travesty.
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Old 01-04-2024, 10:18 PM
 
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You believe everything you see in movies?
it was not comedy or Science fiction ... etc
it was Historical, Documentary about one of the prophet of God
and it was not produced by muslims
why would they make Jesus in the film say Allah
and the answer for that because that is what Jesus said

the video clip is four minutes and it is enough to watch just one minute from 1:01 to 2:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RbVt8Us8aY
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Old 01-05-2024, 04:55 AM
 
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Actually, I posed my question to the Internet. Here is what I got:

John 14:26:-"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you (English Standard Version)."

That's interesting ...as though Jesus (via John) anticipated that this question pertaining to 'who'? would later be asked.
The Helper is not the Holy Spirit becasue he was already exist

Luke 1:41 ESV
And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary,
the baby leaped in her womb.
And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit,

The Helper is the final prophet Mahammed

John 14:16 ESV
And I will ask the Father,
and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,

another Helper that means there was already a Helper and that was the prohet Jesus
and another one means another prophet

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Old 01-05-2024, 05:09 AM
 
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Some verses in the Bible can't be true

such as 2 Samuel 11:3-5

ESV
And David sent and inquired about the woman.
And one said, “Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam,
the wife of Uriah the Hittite?â€

So David sent messengers and took her, and she came to him,
and he lay with her. (Now she had been purifying herself from her uncleanness.)
Then she returned to her house.

And the woman conceived,
and she sent and told David, “I am pregnant.â€



This is not the attitude of the prophets

such thing doesn't come from a general good man
letalone from a prophet
If you are flesh, you are capable of sin. David did sin... a lot. However it's also true David was a man after God own heart. That is not a moral judgement, but instead is acknowledgment that David was committed to God's ways and demonstrated fidelity to God's Law. David failed quite often and knew it... yet couldn't resist sin. No one is righteous including all the prophets....'cept one.

Jesus
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Old 01-05-2024, 08:06 AM
 
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it was Historical, Documentary about one of the prophet of God
I don't think you understand what a "documentary" is. Usually with documentaries there are either eyewitnesses or some other form of empirical evidence. TPotC had none of those things. It is entirely a work of fiction (or, to be kinder, interpretation). And not the science type.
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and it was not produced by muslims
why would they make Jesus in the film say Allah
Why do people do anything? I would pose to you that this is an exact case in point to what I've been saying here. Biblical stories are interpreted by men throughout centuries. Such interpretations are rarely, if ever, exact representations of the original events or words. Someone somewhere interpreted Jesus (whoever he might have been) to have said "Allah".

Unless, of course, you believe the moviemakers interviewed Jesus himself, in which case I'll withhold comment so as not to offend anyone.
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Old 01-05-2024, 08:53 AM
 
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it was not comedy or Science fiction ... etc
it was Historical, Documentary about one of the prophet of God
and it was not produced by muslims
Passion of the Christ was not a historical "documentary." It is a Biblical drama.


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why would they make Jesus in the film say Allah
and the answer for that because that is what Jesus said
No. The script was written in English by Mel Gibson and Benedict Fitzgerald. It was then translated into Latin and again into reconstructed Eastern Aramaic.

It has been maintained that Jesus spoke Galilean Aramaic...which is Western Aramaic. The reason the screenplay dialogue wasn't translated into Galilean Aramaic is because it is an obscure dialect to this day. To this day, even trained scholars still can't accurately piece together the exact words Jesus spoke.

Although many Aramaic words are used in the movie, it's not a real 'language.' It's a 'movie language', much like Klingon.
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Old 01-05-2024, 11:07 AM
 
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He did and any one can hear and see that in the film about Jesus

Jesus said Allah in his language

I don't really care what the film you refer to says. The BIBLE does not quote Jesus speaking the name of Allah. The BIBLE was written in Koine Greek, and Hebrew, with a smattering of Aramaic. But Jesus is not quoted speaking the name Allah.

Seriously. This sort of thing makes you look bad.
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Old 01-05-2024, 09:53 PM
 
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I don't really care what the film you refer to says. The BIBLE does not quote Jesus speaking the name of Allah. The BIBLE was written in Koine Greek, and Hebrew, with a smattering of Aramaic. But Jesus is not quoted speaking the name Allah.

Seriously. This sort of thing makes you look bad.
many names when translated from the original language Bible to English got diverted.

Jesus him self his real name is not Jesus.

his real name is Isa.

Mary the mother of Jesus her real name is Maryam

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