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Old 02-02-2024, 05:10 PM
 
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You may believe that, but most Christians don't. A majority of Christians understand that the lessons contained in the Bible can be used to impart wisdom and morality without being literally true. Note: That does not conflict with the belief that the Scriptures are inspired.
I think we have a larger issue if Christians don't believe it. Inspired Scripture loses all credibility if this is the case. The genealogy of Jesus wouldn't be true.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:31 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I think we have a larger issue if Christians don't believe it. Inspired Scripture loses all credibility if this is the case. The genealogy of Jesus wouldn't be true.

Your post implies that anyone that interprets Scripture in a way that differs from your interpretation is automatically, in your mind, an unbeliever.

As much interpretation is required by so many Bible passages, it seems awfully arrogant to think there is only one legitimate way to interpret the thousands of pages in 66 (or more) books.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:59 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I think we have a larger issue if Christians don't believe it. Inspired Scripture loses all credibility if this is the case. The genealogy of Jesus wouldn't be true.
Is your faith in God or in a book written by men ?

It's not the literal words but the message they convey.
Do you think we all get the same message ?

I don't.
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Old 02-02-2024, 10:13 PM
 
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God created Adam almost exactly 6,000 years ago and there is genealogy and timeline.
God created the angels and Jinn before Adam
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Old 02-02-2024, 10:53 PM
 
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this verse is talking about the death of Samuel
and that means the book was not written by Samuel


1 Samuel 25:1 ESV

Now Samuel died.
And all Israel assembled and mourned for him,
and they buried him in his house at Ramah.
Then David rose and went down to the wilderness of Paran.
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Old 02-03-2024, 06:35 AM
 
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this verse is talking about the death of Samuel
and that means the book was not written by Samuel


1 Samuel 25:1 ESV

Now Samuel died.
And all Israel assembled and mourned for him,
and they buried him in his house at Ramah.
Then David rose and went down to the wilderness of Paran.
Why is that an issue? No one suggests that the ENTIRE book was written by him. And *Gasp!!!!!* the end of Deuteronomy was written by someone else because the death of Moses is recorded.

But once AGAIN, you dishonor your prophet, who said to believe the Bible, when you post this stuff.
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Old 02-03-2024, 06:37 AM
 
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Is your faith in God or in a book written by men ?

It's not the literal words but the message they convey.
Do you think we all get the same message ?

I don't.
Do you not understand that our faith is in the God that wrote the Bible, the PERFECT God who Inspired it? That to suggest his work is false is to suggest he erred?

When one attacks the Bible, one attacks the God we believe in.
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Old 02-03-2024, 07:33 AM
 
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Do you not understand that our faith is in the God that wrote the Bible, the PERFECT God who Inspired it? That to suggest his work is false is to suggest he erred?

When one attacks the Bible, one attacks the God we believe in.
There you go again. You took something someone said and twisted it to mean something else.

Nobody has suggested that the Bible is false. Understanding that the parables are not factual is the same type of interpretation as is done with the Garden of Eden, the global flood, the pillar of salt, or the lived three days in a fish stories. Interpreting those stories as allegories is not an attack on the Bible, nor is it an attack against God. Quite the contrary, those interpretations impart greater wisdom to the inspiring God.
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Old 02-03-2024, 09:16 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Do you not understand that our faith is in the God that wrote the Bible, the PERFECT God who Inspired it? That to suggest his work is false is to suggest he erred?

When one attacks the Bible, one attacks the God we believe in.
Not everyone takes the Bible literally. That does not make them wrong.
Not everyone unconditionally believes the dogma. That does not make them wrong.
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Old 02-03-2024, 09:24 AM
 
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There you go again. You took something someone said and twisted it to mean something else.
Please try to understand my position without twisting it.
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Nobody has suggested that the Bible is false.
I did not say that anyone claimed the Bible is entirely false.
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Understanding that the parables are not factual is the same type of interpretation as is done with the Garden of Eden, the global flood, the pillar of salt, or the lived three days in a fish stories. Interpreting those stories as allegories is not an attack on the Bible, nor is it an attack against God. Quite the contrary, those interpretations impart greater wisdom to the inspiring God.
Right. I understand your point. Now please try to understand our point. When you tell us that it doesn't REALLY say what it obviously says, what we hear/read is that you are claiming that it is false. I understand that may not be your point, but that's what it's perceived as, like it or not.

Again, please try to show some empathy and understand what others see.
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