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Old 02-19-2024, 02:14 PM
 
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this verse has at least two things not true
John 3:13 ESV
No one has ascended into heaven
except he who descended from heaven,
the Son of Man.
Elijah ascended into heaven
Remember: Elijah was Not resurrected but merely transferred by the wind in the mid-heavens to another location.
Elijah did Not come from Heaven to Earth as God had sent heavenly Jesus to Earth for us from Heaven.
Elijah was still alive at the later time of 2nd Chronicles 21:12 writing letters.
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Old 02-19-2024, 03:34 PM
 
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another order is off,

Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before man
Genesis 2:7 and 19 Animals were created after man

a human error in a Holy Book
Do you REALLY think that the writer that put those 2 chapters next to each other, or the Jews that copied it for generations were that dumb?

Chapter 2 restates it. That's it. It is not a contradiction.


It's not like the Quran that says a man's sperm originates from his ribs.
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Old 02-19-2024, 03:36 PM
 
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this verse has at least two things not true

John 3:13 ESV

No one has ascended into heaven
except he who descended from heaven,
the Son of Man.

Elijah ascended into heaven
Elijah didn't directly ascend to Heaven. He was taken. Only Jesus has the ability to do so.

You continue to dishonor your prophet by playing this game.
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Old 02-20-2024, 12:10 PM
 
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Remember: Elijah was Not resurrected but merely transferred by the wind in the mid-heavens to another location.
Elijah did Not come from Heaven to Earth as God had sent heavenly Jesus to Earth for us from Heaven.
Elijah was still alive at the later time of 2nd Chronicles 21:12 writing letters.
Jesus was born on the earth.

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Who is the father of Joseph ? Jacob or Heli

Matthew 1:16 ESV

and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary,
of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.

Luke 3:23 ESV

Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age,
being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,
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Old 02-20-2024, 08:37 PM
 
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Jesus was born on the earth.
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Who is the father of Joseph ? Jacob or Heli
Matthew 1:16 ESV
and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary,
of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
Luke 3:23 ESV
Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age,
being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,
In Scripture son-in-law was considered as son.
So, Matthew's account is paternal.
Luke's account is maternal. Heli Mary's father.
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:22 PM
 
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In Scripture son-in-law was considered as son.
So, Matthew's account is paternal.
Luke's account is maternal. Heli Mary's father.
Joachim was, according to Christian tradition, the husband of Saint Anne,
the father of Mary, the mother of Jesus,
and the maternal grandfather of Jesus.

also there is another difference

Matthew 1:6-7 Jesus’ lineage is through Solomon, son of David
Luke 3: 23-31 Jesus’ lineage is through Nathan, son of David

in Islam the father of Mary, the mother of Jesus, is Imran
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Old 02-22-2024, 08:21 AM
 
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Joachim was, according to Christian tradition, the husband of Saint Anne,
the father of Mary, the mother of Jesus,
and the maternal grandfather of Jesus.

also there is another difference

Matthew 1:6-7 Jesus’ lineage is through Solomon, son of David
Luke 3: 23-31 Jesus’ lineage is through Nathan, son of David

in Islam the father of Mary, the mother of Jesus, is Imran
You realize, of course, that Christian tradition is not Scripture, right? As for the different lineages, you've had that answered. One is paternal, one is maternal.

Now...why do you dishonor your prophet by attacking the lineage of the Prophet Jesus?
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Old 02-22-2024, 04:29 PM
 
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You realize, of course, that Christian tradition is not Scripture, right? As for the different lineages, you've had that answered. One is paternal, one is maternal.

Now...why do you dishonor your prophet by attacking the lineage of the Prophet Jesus?


Solomon and Nathan are brothers

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The narration of the adulterous woman (7/53) to (8/11).

There is a consensus that it is from an unknown source,
so it was inserted at a later time....)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cobVbGs5yXM
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Old 02-23-2024, 11:34 AM
 
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Solomon and Nathan are brothers
I'm sorry...what's your point? Could you elaborate?
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The narration of the adulterous woman (7/53) to (8/11).

There is a consensus that it is from an unknown source,
so it was inserted at a later time....)
Yes. That's one of the few passages in the Bible that is known to not exist in the earliest texts. Most Bibles actually have a note saying that, and I know pastors that refuse to preach that section.

The point is that this is a known fact. A few verses were likely inserted by a scribe. But it does not suggest that any other passage in Scripture is unreliable.

Once again, you continue to dishonor your prophet by attacking Scripture.
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Old 02-23-2024, 03:43 PM
 
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I'm sorry...what's your point? Could you elaborate?
as if
David's sperm reaches Mary, the mother of Christ, through Solomon and Nathan at the same time!

Mary, peace be upon her, did not become pregnant through intercourse,
and God protected her private parts and no one touched her.
Rather, she became pregnant by the breath of the angel Gabriel, the spirit of God Almighty.

She became pregnant by God’s power,
as He created a person from a mother without a father.
Just as Adam was created without a father or a mother,
He created Eve from a father
Without a mother,
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Yes. That's one of the few passages in the Bible that is known to not exist in the earliest texts. Most Bibles actually have a note saying that, and I know pastors that refuse to preach that section.

The point is that this is a known fact. A few verses were likely inserted by a scribe. But it does not suggest that any other passage in Scripture is unreliable.

Once again, you continue to dishonor your prophet by attacking Scripture.
Should 1 John 5:7 be in the Bible?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JulqQ-cV8GQ
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