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David's sperm reaches Mary, the mother of Christ, through Solomon and Nathan at the same time!
What a weird thing to say. Claiming someone is an ancestor says that?
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Mary, peace be upon her, did not become pregnant through intercourse,
and God protected her private parts and no one touched her.
Agreed. She was a virgin. But she still had a family line. That's all it is. A list of her family line.
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Rather, she became pregnant by the breath of the angel Gabriel, the spirit of God Almighty.
The Bible nowhere says the breath of Gabriel impregnated Mary. It say she was pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit. Gabriel is not the Holy Spirit
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She became pregnant by God’s power,
Yes. God, The Holy Spirit. The third person of the Trinity. He is not a different God, or a partner to God, but he is God himself.
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as He created a person from a mother without a father.
Just as Adam was created without a father or a mother,
He created Eve from a father
Without a mother,
You think Eve had a father? That's kind of bizarre.
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Should 1 John 5:7 be in the Bible?
Of course it should. But rather than I watch a video of your favorite skeptic, can you tell me in your own words why you believe it should or should not be?
The Bible nowhere says the breath of Gabriel impregnated Mary. It say she was pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit. Gabriel is not the Holy Spirit
The final Holy Book is not in the Bible as first John 5:7 was not in the Bible until 1522
this is a verse that was added to the Bible in 1522
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You think Eve had a father? That's kind of bizarre.
Eve was created from Adam
the word father was a reference to him
like when the Christians say our father in heaven
the word father is a reference to Creator
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Of course it should. But rather than I watch a video of your favorite skeptic, can you tell me in your own words why you believe it should or should not be?
first John 5:7 was not in the Bible until 1522
this is a verse that was added to the Bible in 1522
1st John 5:7 - The verse of the trinity is now thrown away from the bible.
it is the only explicit verse to prove trinity and now we are told the verse is a forgery.
the verse has been added to prove the trinity.
what makes us think that other important creed of the Christian faith is also authentic
when verse to prove them is being thrown out?
******************** Should the last 12 verses of Mark be in the Bible?
yes
the same accusation would be leveled against her
and that why Mary when the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm.
She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!
becasue she knew that no one would believe her and her people and the public will accuse her
but Allah relieved her from this huge crisis and made the baby speack to her and said
unto her from below her, "Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you.
And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you.
So eat and drink and be glad.
And if you see any human being, say:
'Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Gracious (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day.
then she got calm and knew that Allah is with her and went to her people with all the confidence
And she came to her people with him, carrying him (with her).
They said: O Marium! surely you have done a strange thing.
O sister of Haroun! your father was not a bad man, nor, was your mother an unchaste woman.
But she pointed to the baby .
They said: How should we speak to one who was a child in the cradle?
then the baby spoke and said
Surely I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet;
if such miracle happend to any woman then no one has the right to accuse her.
this video from minute 32 gives a general picture for the response and gloated against Mary
when she came carrying her new born baby
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have.
Do not spare them,
but kill both man and woman,
child and infant,
ox and sheep, camel and donkey.
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The final Holy Book is not in the Bible as first John 5:7 was not in the Bible until 1522
this is a verse that was added to the Bible in 1522
Completely untrue. What's your source for such a claim? There are manuscripts demonstrating otherwise.
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Eve was created from Adam
the word father was a reference to him
like when the Christians say our father in heaven
the word father is a reference to Creator
So again, you think Adam was Eve's "Father"? That's a bizarre idea. So you think Eve procreated with her father?
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first John 5:7 was not in the Bible until 1522
this is a verse that was added to the Bible in 1522
1st John 5:7 - The verse of the trinity is now thrown away from the bible.
it is the only explicit verse to prove trinity and now we are told the verse is a forgery.
the verse has been added to prove the trinity.
what makes us think that other important creed of the Christian faith is also authentic
when verse to prove them is being thrown out?
******************** Should the last 12 verses of Mark be in the Bible?
Again. Simply untrue. Why should we believe your claim?
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have.
Do not spare them,
but kill both man and woman,
child and infant,
ox and sheep, camel and donkey.
The sin of Adam. They inherited the sin of Adam. Nevermind the fact that the Amalekites were evil and did evil in the eyes of God.
But if you'd like to talk about genocide, I can find some quotes from the Quran of Muslims killing Jews for no reason other than they are Jewish.
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And David sent and inquired about the woman.
And one said, “Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam,
the wife of Uriah the Hittite?”
So David sent messengers and took her, and she came to him,
and he lay with her. (Now she had been purifying herself from her uncleanness.)
Then she returned to her house.
And the woman conceived,
and she sent and told David, “I am pregnant.”
This is not the attitude of the prophets
such thing doesn't come from a general good man
letalone from a prophet
First of all David was not a prophet, he was a King. This is typical of modern church thought that incorporates a fantasy belief of their own making. king David was human as we all are and is capable of making mistakes and bad decisions which the Father punished him by causing the death of two of his sons and the temporary loss of his Kingdom. So yes, this is true he did indeed commit these transgressions or the Father would not have punished him.
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First of all David was not a prophet, he was a King. This is typical of modern church thought that incorporates a fantasy belief of their own making. king David was human as we all are and is capable of making mistakes and bad decisions which the Father punished him by causing the death of two of his sons and the temporary loss of his Kingdom. So yes, this is true he did indeed commit these transgressions or the Father would not have punished him.
To be fair, David did author some Psalms with Messianic prophecies in them.
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have.
Do not spare them,
but kill both man and woman,
child and infant,
ox and sheep, camel and donkey.
Well - sin is in them, and it becomes evident as all babies become able to walk and talk and form thoughts.
If they were sinless, God would not have put babies under the authority of parents.
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