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Old 02-09-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: New England
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Have you overcome any weakness in your life?

If you have then it should be easy to understand what is being said here.

Walking with God is a process of purification. Seeking His will leads us to be better people and to keep ourselves unspotted from the world. When we are tempted, we have a process for overcoming, we have a hope for life eternal.

Jesus did not just come to lay His life down. He came to show us how to live the commandments of God, bring the promises back to our understanding after the falling away of the Hebrews.

The message today does not address this process as much as it should, or the fruit of believers would be much sweeter.

Frankly i'm surprised to some level that living the teachings is such a mind blower to professed believers.
I understand that Pauly theism has taken the message of Christ into some morphed Grace mis-understanding. In that grace is some kind of cloaking device for people that go to church and say the sinners prayer.
I've been told by some misguided believers that you can say the sinners prayer and it doesn't matter what you do after that, you will be with Jesus....

That is Devil doctrine and nowhere to be found in the teachings of Christ.



godspeed,

freedom
Your dancing around and didn't answer the question so I'll ask it again.

Focus!

So in response to your answer of #2, "yes you do still 'sin'".

What makes you any different then someone else who has or does "sin"?

I'm curious to hear your reply.

Thanks,

Jay
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Your dancing around and didn't answer the question so I'll ask it again.

Focus!

So in response to your answer of #2, "yes you do still 'sin'".

What makes you any different then someone else who has or does "sin"?

I'm curious to hear your reply.

Thanks,

Jay
Your question is to broad.... different from who?, what makes me different from you apparently is that i think Jesus wants us to overcome sin.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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I just figured that if you are that pliable that a poor rep made you justify anger. That a good rep would allow you to not be angry.

Any more clues to your disposition?

godspeed,


freedom
Do you even realize how condescending you sound?
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I have to lean on the Lord a lot. I have four children. I am their teacher in all things...and that includes the Bible. If I taught them the beliefs about sin posted around here, would they even bother to know the Lord? I seriously doubt it. I wouldn't really doubt that they might consider suicide. Why live if we can never know the Lord?
Because we can know the Lord, if you teach them contrary to what Jesus taught, then they won't even have a chance.

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I have to keep my faith real as if I were still a child...because I have children. I don't have to dig for hidden secrets that just aren't there. The Lord wouldn't stick out His foot for me to trip over when I am the only teaching four more of His children to know Him!
Hidden? It's right there, not hidden.

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There is something to be said of a child-like faith... I will never teach my children this horrid doctrine being tossed around here. And I will stand up for the Lord in this! Call it anger, I don't care! This is horrid talk! People are ready to walk away from the Lord because of this! And you perfect people don't seem to care!
Living the teachings of Jesus is horrid?

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I pray that the Lord will forever protect my children from the likes of you perfect people.

Rep that, anons.
Look salvation is for all, the divine nature for those that live and keep His word. I didn't make it up, its all there.
You've been taught that being salvaged is to be exalted. That simply is nowhere to be found in scripture.

Those that die in their sins will continue to grow, but at a much slower pace, their crowns will be few if any. Satan has lost all sinners. You, me, our children... Satan has no claim to them.
That doesn't mean that we will not be held accountable for our deeds.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Do you even realize how condescending you sound?
Yes i do, and frankly for some it is an appropriate response. I don't see your balanced responses.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:52 AM
 
Location: New England
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Your question is to broad.... different from who?, what makes me different from you apparently is that i think Jesus wants us to overcome sin.

godspeed,

freedom
The question was: "What makes you any different then someone else who has or does 'sin'?"

I guess I can say it another way:

What makes you - a Chistian that sins, any different from others who do.

It's not a hard question.

Are you feeling backed against a wall?
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:54 AM
 
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Because we can know the Lord, if you teach them contrary to what Jesus taught, then they won't even have a chance.


Hidden? It's right there, not hidden.


Living the teachings of Jesus is horrid?



Look salvation is for all, the divine nature for those that live and keep His word. I didn't make it up, its all there.
You've been taught that being salvaged is to be exalted. That simply is nowhere to be found in scripture.

Those that die in their sins will continue to grow, but at a much slower pace, their crowns will be few if any. Satan has lost all sinners. You, me, our children... Satan has no claim to them.
That doesn't mean that we will not be held accountable for our deeds.

godspeed,

freedom
freedom I have to say "you talk in circle" ya know that? Now I consider myself to be above average intelligence, but I don't 'get' a lot of what you say. Example: "You've been taught that being salvaged is to be exalted. " So would you humor me and put that in layman's language? Thx.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Any Christian that sins. What makes you - a Chistian that sins, any different from others who do.

It's not a hard question.

Are you feeling backed against a wall?
First our definition of Christian must be different. To me a Christian doesn't sin. Christian means annointed, (annointed with light) even Christ like.
THat is why i don't take that name upon myself, i hope one day it is given to me.

Are you trying to back me against a wall?

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:56 AM
 
Location: MI
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Because we can know the Lord, if you teach them contrary to what Jesus taught, then they won't even have a chance.


Hidden? It's right there, not hidden.


Living the teachings of Jesus is horrid?



Look salvation is for all, the divine nature for those that live and keep His word. I didn't make it up, its all there.
You've been taught that being salvaged is to be exalted. That simply is nowhere to be found in scripture.

Those that die in their sins will continue to grow, but at a much slower pace, their crowns will be few if any. Satan has lost all sinners. You, me, our children... Satan has no claim to them.
That doesn't mean that we will not be held accountable for our deeds.

godspeed,

freedom
Must be an amazing life to be equal to God. Let's just drop it. The Lord would never lead me wrong. I'll continue to trust in Him.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: New England
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First our definition of Christian must be different. To me a Christian doesn't sin. Christian means annointed, (annointed with light) even Christ like.
THat is why i don't take that name upon myself, i hope one day it is given to me.

Are you trying to back me against a wall?

godspeed,

freedom
But you said you sin. I guess YOU'RE saying you're not a Christian then!

BTW: Are you at work right now? Just curious.
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