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Old 07-10-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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What about God's will ?

So Beloved from what i can gather from what you are saying is ,God created man in his own image and He did not create the serpent seed. Satan created serpent seed ?
He created the elect in adam in His own image, the seed of the devil was created in their Fathers image, the devil..
Jn 8:


44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do

No God created the serpent seed, satan cannot create..
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:13 AM
 
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He created the elect in adam in His own image, the seed of the devil was created in their Fathers image, the devil..
Jn 8:


44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do

No God created the serpent seed, satan cannot create..
But who created the seed of the devil ? The devil or God ?
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:57 AM
 
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But who created the seed of the devil ? The devil or God ?
God created all things, for He created the devil and His seed for His purpose..

God put in motion the seeds reproducing after their own kind in the beginning, and in that regards, God is the creator of all offsprings acts 17:

28For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

That is God is the First Cause of all offsprings..
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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God created all things, for He created the devil and His seed for His purpose..

God put in motion the seeds reproducing after their own kind in the beginning, and in that regards, God is the creator of all offsprings acts 17:

28For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

That is God is the First Cause of all offsprings..
Where does it say to the devil go forth and multiply ?
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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Where does it say to the devil go forth and multiply ?
Duh where does it say he wouldnt ? he has a seed, thats for sure gen 3 15
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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Duh where does it say he wouldnt ? he has a seed, thats for sure gen 3 15
The seed is the word of God

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

God's seed (word) is truth and is life giving

Satan's seed(word) is lies and death(murder)

Adam believed the lie as well as Eve so the seed of satan was sown in both of them.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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Fundamentalist, I find it interesting that you tell pcamps to stop reasoning and only use scripture. Then you immediately forsake scripture and use reasoning of John MacArthur.

Fundy, the Bible does not say that God's "love is reserved for believers alone." My Bible says "God so loved the world." It also says He came into the world to save **sinners.**

Of course the elect are showered with blessings far in advance of the rest of mankind during the coming ages. But this does not mean God will not shower loving blessings on the rest of humanity at the consummation of the age times.

I wonder why MacArthur doesn't say anything about all mankind being made sinners due to what Adam did and the same all mankind being made righteous due to what Christ did? (Romans 5:18,19). Maybe it is because he is blind?
Interesting and right on point. The elect are the ones who accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior, nothing more or nothing less, these are the ones presdestined by God the moment they became born again and adopted into God's family as new creatures in Christ.
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Old 07-10-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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God created all things, for He created the devil and His seed for His purpose..

God put in motion the seeds reproducing after their own kind in the beginning, and in that regards, God is the creator of all offsprings acts 17:

28For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

That is God is the First Cause of all offsprings..
Oh yea meant to add they both munched on the tree of knowledge of good and evil

This tree of knowledge of good and evil is where the doctrine of eternal torment came from.

If they had just ate of the tree of life , eternal hell would not have existed in their minds.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:45 PM
 
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The seed is the word of God

Yes thats a seed too, but we not talking about that seed now, at least i am not, i am talking about this seed..gen 3:


14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15And I will put enmity between thee [Serpent] and the woman, and between thy [serpent] seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Now do you believe God or what ? God says satan, the serpent has a seed..
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:46 PM
 
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Interesting and right on point. The elect are the ones who accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior, nothing more or nothing less, these are the ones presdestined by God the moment they became born again and adopted into God's family as new creatures in Christ.
More False teaching, the elect are accepted of God, before the world began..they didnt have to do anything to be accepted of God..
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