A question about Adam (faith, Jewish, tradition, belief)

[beloved57]

So now instead of twisting the scriptures, you just add to them?

i didnt add anything..but where does it say that cains sacrifice was not evil ? if you dont show that verse, then your adding something it seems..

[Meerkat2]

Originally Posted by HotinAZ

It doesnt say that his sacrifice was evil, so don't play a word game with me. It says his deeds were evil. What pray tell me are evil deeds?

Jealousy, strife, anger, covetness, lust, ego, etc. These are emotions which lead to sin.

Got some news for you Beloved57. You ARE human as well. So are YOU of the evil one?

Abel walked according to the Spirit, and sacrificed a spiritual gift.
Cain walked according to the flesh, and sacrificed a fleshly gift.

How do you not "see" this, and yet claim to walk in the Spirit?

HotinAZ,

I agree 100%

[HotinAZ]

Originally Posted by beloved57

i didnt add anything..but where does it say that cains sacrifice was not evil ? if you dont show that verse, then your adding something it seems..

Where does it say his sacrifice WAS evil, as you claim it was?? I didn't add to anything, for it didn't say no such thing, and I called you on it.

[beloved57]

Where does it say his sacrifice WAS evil

Where does it say it wasnt evil ?

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776

The Moabites were descended from Lot who was Abraham's Nephew. Her Bloodline was from Abrahams family as well, just not directly from Abraham. The prohibition of intermingling with the gentiles was especially concerning the Hamitic nations, more especially the Canaanite tribes.

Hi Iron, it is true Lot was Abrahams Nephew, but the promise was only given to Abraham and his seed, which would exclude Lot as he was not of Abraham seed.

Not a big deal bro, just wanted to see how Ruth related according to your understanding.

[eyewrist]

Originally Posted by pneuma

Hi Iron, it is true Lot was Abrahams Nephew, but the promise was only given to Abraham and his seed, which would exclude Lot as he was not of Abraham seed.

Not a big deal bro, just wanted to see how Ruth related according to your understanding.

Both Rahab the prostitute is not , nor Abraham's father was pagan of pure bloodline and it was through Mary which Jesus was concieved; not Joseph. All that is outlined in Luke3:23-38

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by eyewrist

Both Rahab the prostitute is not , nor Abraham's father was pagan of pure bloodline and it was through Mary which Jesus was concieved; not Joseph. All that is outlined in Luke3:23-38

Hi eyew, not sure of what you are saying, can you expond your point.

[Ironmaw1776]

Originally Posted by pneuma

Hi Iron, it is true Lot was Abrahams Nephew, but the promise was only given to Abraham and his seed, which would exclude Lot as he was not of Abraham seed.

Not a big deal bro, just wanted to see how Ruth related according to your understanding.

As i understand it, it is not about whether or not she was of Abraham's seed, it matters that her blood line Goes back to Adam. If you want to get into specifics about Jewish tradition as it exists today as to whether or not a person is Jewish as regards their mothers ethnic descent is another point. I said Jesus bloodline was "pure" ... In regards to being directly descended from Adam.

However to answer the argument i presented, Ruth was a true convert and therefore became a true Jew after Abraham by faith according to the Jewish belief and my own.

[Ironmaw1776]

Originally Posted by pneuma

Hi eyew, not sure of what you are saying, can you expond your point.

I believe he is making reference to the fact that Joseph, Jesus adopted father, was the descendant of king Saul, and Saul's descendants have no right to the throne. So had Joseph been Christs fleshly father Jesus would have had no claim to the throne of David. I believe that is what he is referring to ...

[eyewrist]

Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776

As i understand it, it is not about whether or not she was of Abraham's seed, it matters that her blood line Goes back to Adam. If you want to get into specifics about Jewish tradition as it exists today as to whether or not a person is Jewish as regards their mothers ethnic descent is another point. I said Jesus bloodline was "pure" ... In regards to being directly descended from Adam.

However to answer the argument i presented, Ruth was a true convert and therefore became a true Jew after Abraham by faith according to the Jewish belief and my own.

Yes indeed Iron It was through their faith and willingness to obey and follow God the made the decendants of Abraham; not "Jewishness" or "non Jewishness." Just as it is for us today! In Gal 3;29 If you belong to Christ, then you ARE Abraham's seed and heirs according to (God's) promise