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Old 01-16-2010, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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yes, your point is?
THere's more than meets the eye.


godspeed,

freedom

 
Old 01-16-2010, 06:42 PM
 
Location: New York City
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yes, we are the drivers.

Is it unreasonable to think that we have an effect on the vibrational rate of the earth's systems.

pebble in pond...

butterfly effect....

godspeed,

freedom
So the Haitians caused the quake?
 
Old 01-16-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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yes, we are the drivers.

Is it unreasonable to think that we have an effect on the vibrational rate of the earth's systems.

pebble in pond...

butterfly effect....

godspeed,

freedom
Now that you mention it....I was jumping on the bed at the exact moment of the earthquake!!


It's not only unreasonable to think that we mere humans can vibrate the tectonic plates and cause a 7.0 earthquake...IT'S ABSURD!!! It's even more idiotic than thinking it was caused by a pact with the devil.



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When compared to the mass of the earth, 6x1024 kilograms, it can be seen that while massive, the mass of all the people on the earth makes basically no difference to the mass of the earth. The mass of all the people on the earth is equal to one and a half trillionth the weight of the earth.
 
Old 01-16-2010, 07:24 PM
 
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So the Haitians caused the quake?
Yes, they were all jumping on the beds too....trying to set a world record for bed jumping. I guess they won't try that again.
 
Old 01-16-2010, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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So the Haitians caused the quake?
Too narrow.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 01-16-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Yes, they were all jumping on the beds too....trying to set a world record for bed jumping. I guess they won't try that again.
Surely your Mother told you not to jump on the bed?

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 01-16-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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Surely your Mother told you not to jump on the bed?

godspeed,

freedom
Yes, she told me that jumping on the bed could cause earthquakes but I didn't believe her. She also said "Cut that out or your face will freeze like that!" (when making faces at my brother). I guess she was right about the former....maybe I better stop making faces too!!
 
Old 01-16-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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Haiti was a consequence of man's inhumanity and selfishness. The natural disaster would not have been so bad if Haiti had not been abused by governments- theirs, ours and others. Hopefully man will learn from this.
 
Old 01-16-2010, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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First let me say I have received emails indicating that I may have been alittle too harsh on Roberston and in someways I agree but I don't see in scripture that a nation can enter into a pact or a covenant with the devil? I agree that we can say, it is a judgment from God BUT we cannot say what the reason is. We don't know only God knows the reasons.

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Now "America's Pastor" Pastor Rick WarrenLabeling any natural disaster as God's judgment is nonsense.True “judgment begins with God’s family” 1 Peter4:17, not others.

1 Peter 4:17. Could Haiti have been God's judgment? Yes but Rick Warren here goes to the other extreme and says that no disaster can be a judgment from God? Really? Did God know about the earthquake? Did God send the earthquake? was God responsible for the earthquake? or God didn't know about the earthquake? Does God give us great, calm weather and peaceful planet too?
As a pastor Rick Warren should know better than anyone that you can't base a whole doctrine on one verse furthermore did Pastor Warren read the whole verse? The verse says judgment begins with God's family but His judgment doesn't end with us and to say God is not judging a nation or a people is not scriptural. Rick Warren should know that there is a message for everyone in it from the unbelievers to the believers in a disaster and everyone should respond in the same way."Tower of Siloam" the bloody killings in the temple "I need to repent" Every response from every human being should be What am I doing wrong?

(Luke 13:4-5)
Or those eighteen people who were killed when the tower at Siloam fell on them --do you think they were more guilty than everyone else who lived in Jerusalem?
5 By no means! But I tell you, if you do not repent, you will all perish as they did!"

To say, "that God sending natural disasters as judgment is nonsense" IS nonsence Mr. Warren because it is not scriptural but I must commend the pastor for finally be definitive about something now if only he can be the same way about the other things like Jesus being the only, the gospel etc.......

The answer is between these two.
It doesn't really matter if God allowed the disaster or not..

It should have been common sense to keep those comments silent, no matter who made the comment. Don't you think that the people of Haiti are suffering enough? I am sure that many of them have contemplated different issues. They certainly do not need people to come along and push their face further in the mud (literally). God is gracious and He always brings good from what the enemy intends for evil. Shame on those who would bring more suffering from their insensitive, lack of common sense comments.
 
Old 01-16-2010, 10:30 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Haiti was a consequence of man's inhumanity and selfishness. The natural disaster would not have been so bad if Haiti had not been abused by governments- theirs, ours and others. Hopefully man will learn from this.

Exactly! The natural disaster was unavoidable. Nature will do what she wants when she wants. The EXTENT of the fall out can be directly attributed to a series of man made blunders.
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