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Old 08-19-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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good point joey - and therefore a question we need to focus on - how can we get westsiders to stay in the city? let's face it, much of what makes cincinnati cincinnati - the chili, larosa's pizza, goetta, etc - has come from the west side. also, westsiders stay for generations. it is critical that we focus on our existing residents as well as those who come to restore. as it is, the westside offers, in my opinion, a more attractive lifestyle for the true middle class or working class family than most of the east side. let's build on that.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis and Cincinnati
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As someone who grew up on the westside and who is currently restoring in prospect hill here are my feelings on the preservation and gentrification issues on going over there. The big question I have is while there may be a few handfuls of out of towners doing some amazing restoration work over is it enough to offset the many long timers who are fleeing westwood, price hill, covedale for places like hidden valley, lawrenceburn, west harrison etc? If you have 10 families moving in for every 50 leaving the westside is not going to end up improving.
What I am seeing, at least in my neighorhood is that the restoration work that is going on is encourging people to stay. I have two families on my block that bought in the 1950's I have another neighbor who has been here 20 years and now has NO intention of leaving, and I met someone who lives a street over whose house has been in the same family for four generations. I found out last week that some people who've owned a family home for years in the neighborhood have started work on it and one their now grown kids are moving back to the neighborhood and WANTS to live there! To me thats a good sign

I don't think any neighborhood can remain the same forever. If that were the case everyone in Knox Hill would still be speaking German, I do think the best we can hope for is to try to keep as many people as we can and encourage as many new people to come and maybe some to come back.

What I've been doing is talking to the older residents in our neigborhood, keepuing them aware of the improvements and encouraging them not to sell out for what they think might be decent price because it will be alot more in a few years. We are also looking at ways to help them maintain their houses and we hope our adopt a block program will help get community groups involved in helping these people be able to stay in their homes.

I guess the thing to remember is that a lot of section 8 is history in these neighborhoods now that those landlords went bankrupt during the housing crisis and walked away their tenants seem to be moving farther and farther out into the townships.

I so loved watching the Eyesore Irish Cliffs apartments coming down on the corner of Harrison and Fairmount a few weeks ago.

Ultimately I think staying in Urban neighborhoods makes more sense that trying to get away from problems that now seem to be moving farther out into the townships rather than staying where it has been. We chose our neighborhood and personally I plan on being there for a long time as do most of the out of towners moving in. Our big goal on the westside, I think, is to promote the positive, feature the historic architecture and promote the "front porch quality of life aspects' of the neighborhoods.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Hartwell--IN THE City of Cincinnati
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Ditto on the little more civilized.

Sometimes, people of knowledge who feel they need to make a point come off like a little too much preaching. This may not be intended, but can be the way it is received. In general, people do not like to be talked down to. The self-professed expert saying listen to me I have ALL the answers will eventually not be well received.

Since I joined this forum, I have been reading many opinions on how the suburbs are going to rapidly decay. Do I believe this, He*l No! When the majority of Americans give up their cars for a bicycle, actually support mass transit, and go back to walking as their desired method of transportation, I may change my mind. But frankly I do not expect to live long enough to see it.

In the mean time, let's treat each other and our opinions with respect. At 71 years I feel entitled to mine, but also must recognize yours.
Very well said...some of the comments on this thread were starting to get me angry. I wont point fingers but I will say say there are too many people in this world who think they are experts at everything. We all have our way of doing things and seeing things and that is why we dont all live in identical houses with identical cars in identical neighborhoods.
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