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No, as the base demographics of both areas are different.
OMG wow the demographics of a huge city are different than that of a small city?!!!!!!!!!! WOW
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Originally Posted by Spade
And westheimer? Post Oak? Or Fannin? What neighborhood in BR looks like Rice Military since it's not particularly unique? Because none of those neighborhoods you named look much different from any hoods throughout the entire gulf coast. My point is, to say Houston is like a bigger Baton Rouge is just as ignorant as saying Dallas is like a bigger Oklahoma City.
Dude I'm not going to find the perfect representation of every street. I just said the neighborhoods that are like Rice Military.
I wouldn't disagree with anyone who said Dallas is a bigger OKC. It's been said thousands of times on CD, will happen thousands more times.
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy205
Rice Military looks more like The Heights (townhomes), so I agree that it's not "unique." On The Heights, I'd read an article that said many Louisianans were/are attracted to The Heights because it reminds them of Louisiana.
Honestly, I don't get why people are getting upset over people's opinions that Houston looks like Louisiana. I mean, it's not a bad thing, and the city and metro are not far from the border; it's only natural that the city will share appearances with Louisiana. If the states' welcome signs weren't present, then you wouldn't even know you were in Texas until like the Brazos River.
Again, I'm with you on the similarities between Houston and Baton Rouge. Metairie and Kenner look like Houston too. The I-12 corridor looks like the northside in Houston and like a smaller I-10 corridor with the pine trees and commercial areas along the interstate. Also, these same areas have that similar "grit" feel that Houston has.
The Heights is kind of reminiscent of Uptown homes on larger lots.
This was my point that no one cared to ask for. The northern part of metro BR is when you get into hills and pine trees, similar to around the Woodlands, the southern part is more floodplains, the SE side of Houston around the shipping channel is basically the industry we have along the Mississippi River, there's more of a Cajun infleunce than Creole, etc.
IDK why people are getting bent out of shape.
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Originally Posted by Spade
You based your comment on the point that is factual, not opinionated.
Also, Houston looks like Gulf Coastal Louisiana, Gulf Coastal Mississippi, Gulf Coastal Alabama, and Gulf Coastal Florida because Houston is part of Gulf Coastal Texas. But Houston is still Texas through and through even with the connection to Louisiana. And I don't get this you wouldn't know you're in Texas until you get some point west as if once you get to that part of Texas, the remainder of the state will remind one of each other. Amarillo does not look like Dallas which does not look like Permian Basin which does not look like Laredo which does not look like Tyler which does not look like McAllen.
Also, please find me one area in Baton Rouge that looks like this.
These are not town homes either. As I said earlier, as Houston urbanizes, it starts to look less like just a gulf coast city and more like it's own unique thing.
Houston doesn't look like Gulf Coast Mississippi, and I'd argue Florida too. Galveston and the like do but what about Houston looks like Biloxi?
Houston is most culturally alike Louisiana, is not directly on the coast like Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida cities are, industry more resembles Louisiana's too.
Are you guys insulted that you're being compared to ol raggedy Louisiana or something?
OMG wow the demographics of a huge city are different than that of a small city?!!!!!!!!!! WOW
I said base demographics, are you blind? Baton Rouge does not have the Hispanic influence like Houston has. Likewise, Houston is not nearly as Cajun as Baton Rouge.
And the overall point being made is that the concept of Texas encompasses a wide variety of ideals, settings, cultures, landscapes...including those people associate with Louisiana.
OMG wow the demographics of a huge city are different than that of a small city?!!!!!!!!!! WOW
Dude I'm not going to find the perfect representation of every street. I just said the neighborhoods that are like Rice Military.
I wouldn't disagree with anyone who said Dallas is a bigger OKC. It's been said thousands of times on CD, will happen thousands more times.
The Heights is kind of reminiscent of Uptown homes on larger lots.
This was my point that no one cared to ask for. The northern part of metro BR is when you get into hills and pine trees, similar to around the Woodlands, the southern part is more floodplains, the SE side of Houston around the shipping channel is basically the industry we have along the Mississippi River, there's more of a Cajun infleunce than Creole, etc.
IDK why people are getting bent out of shape.
Houston doesn't look like Gulf Coast Mississippi, and I'd argue Florida too. Galveston and the like do but what about Houston looks like Biloxi?
Houston is most culturally alike Louisiana, is not directly on the coast like Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida cities are, industry more resembles Louisiana's too.
Are you guys insulted that you're being compared to ol raggedy Louisiana or something?
Houston has more in common with other parts of Texas. Why ppl from Louisiana always try to claim houston is laughable. You obviously have not spent time in other parts of Texas. Not visit but spent time in.
OMG wow the demographics of a huge city are different than that of a small city?!!!!!!!!!! WOW
Dude I'm not going to find the perfect representation of every street. I just said the neighborhoods that are like Rice Military.
I wouldn't disagree with anyone who said Dallas is a bigger OKC. It's been said thousands of times on CD, will happen thousands more times.
The Heights is kind of reminiscent of Uptown homes on larger lots.
This was my point that no one cared to ask for. The northern part of metro BR is when you get into hills and pine trees, similar to around the Woodlands, the southern part is more floodplains, the SE side of Houston around the shipping channel is basically the industry we have along the Mississippi River, there's more of a Cajun infleunce than Creole, etc.
IDK why people are getting bent out of shape.
Houston doesn't look like Gulf Coast Mississippi, and I'd argue Florida too. Galveston and the like do but what about Houston looks like Biloxi?
Houston is most culturally alike Louisiana, is not directly on the coast like Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida cities are, industry more resembles Louisiana's too.
Are you guys insulted that you're being compared to ol raggedy Louisiana or something?
I agree with most of this.
What most people don't know or fail to realize is that Louisianans built or helped to build Houston. Slaves escaped Louisiana to build their lives in Houston (see Barrett, Texas), and many people of all races escaped SW Louisiana as a result of a major flooding event in the 1800s. People are quick to bring up the huge Hispanic population to "water down" Louisiana's influence, but the huge boost in the Hispanic population is fairly recent (1980's) and is not nearly as influential as the Puerto Ricans in NYC, who started to migrate to NYC in droves after the Spanish-American War in the 1800s.
Honestly, Houston is no different than Beaumont-Port Arthur when it comes to Louisiana influences; Houston is just larger and more diverse, while BMT packs a stronger punch because it's smaller. Also, the Golden Triangle has a huge Hispanic population, but you still see more Louisiana influences. FWIW, Beaumont is Lake Charles's twin, minus the casinos.
Let's take a look at the eastside. Chambers County is very Cajun influenced; you don't even have to venture off I-10 to see the influences. No one can deny that Baytown alone looks like it can be in Louisiana. Galveston looks like a mini Mobile and New Orleans and has the Mardi Gras. Hell, there are second line festivals all over Houston; and every suburb has their own crawfish festivals. Houston is big on zydeco and bounce music. You will not turn on the radio, go to a club, or go to a party and not hear zydeco and bounce music.
Places like Third Ward, Fourth Ward, and Fifth Ward look like they can be in New Orleans, Lake Charles, Baton Rouge, etc. Houston's industry is very much tied to Louisiana's industry. When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, many oil and gas operations moved to Houston. Also, because of the oil and gas industry, there is and there will forever be back and forth between Louisiana and Houston. How do I know? I work in the industry. Besides the obvious proximity, the oil and gas industry is a major reason why you have several Southern and LSU alum living here.
This is really going to burn your biscuits. I've even run across many Houstonians, both black and white, who weren't directly from Louisiana with Louisiana accents.
In February, I was at The Boot in The Heights and had a conversation with two guys (one was from Morgan City, LA and one was from Franklinton, LA). I asked both why are there so many Louisianans in Houston; they said that Houston is the closet biggest city to home, and it feels like home. I'd worked with a lady from St. Martinville, LA. I'd asked her the same thing. She said out of all of the Texas cities Houston feels the most like Louisiana.
No. I've never denied that Houston isn't Texan. It's in Texas for God's sake. For what society thinks of Texas, Houston, TO ME, doesn't fit that description entirely. I definitely think DFW fits that bill more; hell, even Austin fits it more, TO ME. Houston does fit the "Everything is bigger in Texas" bill.
What most people don't know or fail to realize is that Louisianans built or helped to build Houston. Slaves escaped Louisiana to build their lives in Houston (see Barrett, Texas), and many people of all races escaped SW Louisiana as a result of a major flooding event in the 1800s. People are quick to bring up the huge Hispanic population to "water down" Louisiana's influence, but the huge boost in the Hispanic population is fairly recent (1980's) and is not nearly as influential as the Puerto Ricans in NYC, who started to migrate to NYC in droves after the Spanish-American War in the 1800s.
Honestly, Houston is no different than Beaumont-Port Arthur when it comes to Louisiana influences; Houston is just larger and more diverse, while BMT packs a stronger punch because it's smaller. Also, the Golden Triangle has a huge Hispanic population, but you still see more Louisiana influences. FWIW, Beaumont is Lake Charles's twin, minus the casinos.
Let's take a look at the eastside. Chambers County is very Cajun influenced; you don't even have to venture off I-10 to see the influences. No one can deny that Baytown alone looks like it can be in Louisiana. Galveston looks like a mini Mobile and New Orleans and has the Mardi Gras. Hell, there are second line festivals all over Houston; and every suburb has their own crawfish festivals. Houston is big on zydeco and bounce music. You will not turn on the radio, go to a club, or go to a party and not hear zydeco and bounce music.
Places like Third Ward, Fourth Ward, and Fifth Ward look like they can be in New Orleans, Lake Charles, Baton Rouge, etc. Houston's industry is very much tied to Louisiana's industry. When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, many oil and gas operations moved to Houston. Also, because of the oil and gas industry, there is and there will forever be back and forth between Louisiana and Houston. How do I know? I work in the industry. Besides the obvious proximity, the oil and gas industry is a major reason why you have several Southern and LSU alum living here.
This is really going to burn your biscuits. I've even run across many Houstonians, both black and white, who weren't directly from Louisiana with Louisiana accents.
In February, I was at The Boot in The Heights and had a conversation with two guys (one was from Morgan City, LA and one was from Franklinton, LA). I asked both why are there so many Louisianans in Houston; they said that Houston is the closet biggest city to home, and it feels like home. I'd worked with a lady from St. Martinville, LA. I'd asked her the same thing. She said out of all of the Texas cities Houston feels the most like Louisiana.
No. I've never denied that Houston isn't Texan. It's in Texas for God's sake. For what society thinks of Texas, Houston, TO ME, doesn't fit that description entirely. I definitely think DFW fits that bill more; hell, even Austin fits it more, TO ME. Houston does fit the "Everything is bigger in Texas" bill.
Great post. Definitely agree. Houston has a dose of Louisiana culture you'll not find in any of Texas other big cities outside of the Golden Triangle.
Great post. Definitely agree. Houston has a dose of Louisiana culture you'll not find in any of Texas other big cities outside of the Golden Triangle.
The thing is that both arguments are correct depending on the angle you look at it:
Houston, culture and setting-wise, indeed is the major Texas city that fits the stereotypical perception of the state the least, due to the influence from Louisiana. But it's also true that the vibe of Texas is large and diverse, meaning that the "Louisiana" culture present in the state would be but another ingredient in that mix.
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