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Originally Posted by CurlyFries
Southern. In my opinion, the Baltimore and DC area is the area that is a mix of Mid-Atlantic and Southern.
The mid-Atlantic is the DC/MD/VA area. Everything outside of that is what's in question, DMV is the core of it. I'll even give you DE, parts of PA, and southern NJ to an extent. Mid-Atlantic is comprised of some north and some south to create the "middle."
The mid-Atlantic is the DC/MD/VA area. Everything outside of that is what's in question, DMV is the core of it. I'll even give you DE, parts of PA, and southern NJ to an extent. Mid-Atlantic is comprised of some north and some south to create the "middle."
Actually DC/Baltimore is the core of the mid-Atlantic...and Hampton Roads is the very southeastern edge. Even NC is often included, especially the eastern portion, but those three states (DMV) are the ones that solidly make up the mid-Atlantic states.
This is a sub-region that include states in both the Northeastern and Southeastern U.S. Virginia is both mid-Atlantic and southern, but Hampton Roads is definitely the most southern portion of the area.
The Hampton Roads, Richmond, DC, Baltimore, Wilmington, and Philly. You could place all of those metros in the Mid-Atlantic if you wanted to. NYC and Raleigh/Durham is stretching the boundaries a little too far IMO. However, the DC and Baltimore areas are the ones that are the most Mid-Atlantic. Richmond/Hampton Roads could easily lean towards being southern, and I'd say Richmond is definitely more southern than Mid-Atlantic. Wilmington and Philly, definitely leaning towards being northern. DC and Baltimore, comfortably in the middle. If you want Mid-Atlantic, Maryland should be the obvious pick.
Virginia is more Upper South than Mid-Atlantic IMO, although it's a popular opinion on this site that the three major metros (NOVA, Richmond, Hampton Rds) are more Mid-Atlantic than southern. Basically the eastern half of the state, which is where the majority of Virginia resides. However, I'm still under the opinion that Virginia is more of a southern state. You have to go north of Charlottesville and Richmond before you can taste some Mid-Atlantic flavor. This is just my opinion, though. I can assure you that whenever I've traveled to Petersburg, Danville, or Lynchburg, it felt pretty darn southern.
The Hampton Roads, Richmond, DC, Baltimore, Wilmington, and Philly. You could place all of those metros in the Mid-Atlantic if you wanted to. NYC and Raleigh/Durham is stretching the boundaries a little too far IMO. However, the DC and Baltimore areas are the ones that are the most Mid-Atlantic. Richmond/Hampton Roads could easily lean towards being southern, and I'd say Richmond is definitely more southern than Mid-Atlantic. Wilmington and Philly, definitely leaning towards being northern. DC and Baltimore, comfortably in the middle. If you want Mid-Atlantic, Maryland should be the obvious pick.
Virginia is more Upper South than Mid-Atlantic IMO, although it's a popular opinion on this site that the three major metros (NOVA, Richmond, Hampton Rds) are more Mid-Atlantic than southern. Basically the eastern half of the state, which is where the majority of Virginia resides. However, I'm still under the opinion that Virginia is more of a southern state. You have to go north of Charlottesville and Richmond before you can taste some Mid-Atlantic flavor. This is just my opinion, though.
I would put Norfolk in the same region as DC, Richmond and Baltimore. It is removed from the major Piedmont cities, is part of Amtrak's northeast corridor and is connected to the Chesapeake Bay. That said, Baltimore and DC are too far west (and Baltimore north as well) to be in/bordering the MD and VA tidewater region.
When it comes to accents, Baltimore and DC had their own unique accents while the tidewater accent could be found south and east of Washington in Maryland. The accent is a different one from the lower Piedmont region by Raleigh.
Last edited by ialmostforgot; 04-06-2016 at 03:53 AM..
Actually DC/Baltimore is the core of the mid-Atlantic...and Hampton Roads is the very southeastern edge. Even NC is often included, especially the eastern portion, but those three states (DMV) are the ones that solidly make up the mid-Atlantic states.
This is a sub-region that include states in both the Northeastern and Southeastern U.S. Virginia is both mid-Atlantic and southern, but Hampton Roads is definitely the most southern portion of the area.
The definitions of "Mid-Atlantic" vary too much for DC and Baltimore to be in the middle. Typically, the region includes New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania while MD and VA are the southernmost states. Of the oldest and surviving definition of "middle Atlantic states", Philly seems to be in the middle.
I had a little time to think about it but regarding the accents, it is to my understanding that John Warner has a classic White DC accent. Can anyone from the DC area confirm that?
Anyway, my point is that I hear a lot of TideWater in his speech:
I have to mention that this way of speaking is in decline in the DC area but it's still the original dialect. Regarding the native BMore dialect, there's pieces of the Tidewater accent in it too from what I've heard. Please correct me if this is way off.
The Baltimore accent's long "i" sound before unvoiced consonants (such as k, s, t, p) are the same as tidewater ones (though other places on the Atlantic have that sound, too). However, the southern-ness of its accent leans more towards the Virginia Piedmont accents than the tidewater one. I can't speak for D.C.'s accent because I don't know it well enough.
The black accent of Baltimore has some tidewater influence from when the Black population of Baltimore was supplemented with tidewater migrants in the mid 20th century. An example would be how they have two ways to pronounce "ou/ow" (The second vowel in "about" is not the same as the one in "down").
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Good assessment.
