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What? How is it a black city when blacks only make up 28% of the population (2010 census)?? In Memphis, whites make up 30% of the population, but no one in their right mind would call it a white city.
By U.S. standards, any metro with over 15% black/African American people is considered relatively "black", since the black population in this country is about 13% of the total population. Most Midwestern cities are between 15% and 25%, with Chicago, Cleveland, St. Louis, Detroit and Milwaukee leading the way. While not as black as Southern cities like Memphis, they are DEFINITELY black meccas in this country, still.
Chicago - Wrigleyville
Minneapolis - Uptown (more suburban than urban though)
Indianapolis - Fountain Square
Columbus - Short North
Detroit - Corktown
Milwaukee - Third Ward
STL - Lafayette Square
Cincinnati - Mt. Adams
Here is my new top 20 neighborhoods in no order. I don't see the appeal with Corktown or Fountain Square, please defend...and please replace some of my Cleveland ones! (Dinkytown or Whittier, Minneapolis? Walker's Point, Milwaukee? Greektown, Detroit?)
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Chicago - Wrigleyville Minneapolis - Uptown (more suburban than urban though)
Indianapolis - Fountain Square
Columbus - Short North
Detroit - Corktown
Milwaukee - Third Ward
STL - Lafayette Square
Cincinnati - Mt. Adams
What the hell are you talking about! It's as "urban" as any of these other areas you mentioned, except Wrigleyville. The population density in Uptown has to approach 15K-20K over a LARGE area by now, with 3 major streets lined with retail: Lyndale, Hennepin and Lake. Short North, for instance is ONE street!
I don't have any idea where you come up with this crap!
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Here is my new top 20 neighborhoods in no order. I don't see the appeal with Corktown or Fountain Square, please defend...and please replace some of my Cleveland ones! (Dinkytown or Whittier, Minneapolis? Walker's Point, Milwaukee? Greektown, Detroit?)
Some may say Dinkytown or Whittier but I'd say Loring Park is a better example of a great Midwestern urban neighborhood. It's quite dense and one of the few n'hoods listed that is largely comprised of towers over 10 floors. The density is maked a lot by the lake/park, but it's very dense where there is buildable space!
Stevens Square, also, is a very cool n'hood in Minneapolis, but it's super small (but packs an "urban" punch!).
Stevens Square, also, is a very cool n'hood in Minneapolis, but it's super small (but packs an "urban" punch!).
Very cool. I love those brick apartment buildings side-by-side.
Reminds me of the old Cleveland neighborhood of "Hough" which was destroyed in the late 1960's and early 1970's due to Race Riots and Racial tensions (map snapshots from historicaerials.com):
What the hell are you talking about! It's as "urban" as any of these other areas you mentioned, except Wrigleyville. The population density in Uptown has to approach 15K-20K over a LARGE area by now, with 3 major streets lined with retail: Lyndale, Hennepin and Lake. Short North, for instance is ONE street!
I don't have any idea where you come up with this crap!
The reason Short North is on the list isn't just the linear retail strip. It is the included neighborhoods to the west and east (victorian and italian villages) The Short North is simply an all inclusive name for all areas. Even Victorian Village then technically has "Subset" areas (some more true victorian than others) I think most find the area impressive not just for the tourist retail strip but for the renovated, beautiful victorian homes, walkability, retail, markets, parks, essentially the whole package an urban neighborhood should have.
And again German Village could easily be on this list as well. I think the fact the short north exists has overshadowed the fact that German Village is still one of the best urban neighborhoods in the midwest.
And again German Village could easily be on this list as well. I think the fact the short north exists has overshadowed the fact that German Village is still one of the best urban neighborhoods in the midwest.
btw...here are some GREAT pics of German Village, Columbus:
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Very cool. I love those brick apartment buildings side-by-side.
Reminds me of the old Cleveland neighborhood of "Hough" which was destroyed in the late 1960's and early 1970's due to Race Riots and Racial tensions (map snapshots from historicaerials.com):
1962: Cleveland Hough
2010 Cleveland Hough:
Doesn't that just make you sick to your stomach...
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The reason Short North is on the list isn't just the linear retail strip. It is the included neighborhoods to the west and east (victorian and italian villages) The Short North is simply an all inclusive name for all areas. Even Victorian Village then technically has "Subset" areas (some more true victorian than others) I think most find the area impressive not just for the tourist retail strip but for the renovated, beautiful victorian homes, walkability, retail, markets, parks, essentially the whole package an urban neighborhood should have.
And again German Village could easily be on this list as well. I think the fact the short north exists has overshadowed the fact that German Village is still one of the best urban neighborhoods in the midwest.
I like German Village a lot, and agree that it could be on this "tops" list!
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It's as "urban" as any of these other areas you mentioned, except Wrigleyville. The population density in Uptown has to approach 15K-20K over a LARGE area by now, with 3 major streets lined with retail: Lyndale, Hennepin and Lake. Short North, for instance is ONE street!
